QQ against small 4-bet, 147 BB deep

[ffredd]

No reads on the villain except that he seems solid. At the end of the session he was 16/12 over 122 hands.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $744.50
BB: $515.00
UTG: $591.30
CO: $382.00
BTN: $412.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $120.00</font>, Hero calls $70.00

Flop: ($244) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)

How would you continue from here?

[herbstl]

isn't this a push or fold decision PF ? - imho the call is horrible. Either he has AK or QQ+ if he isn't too tricky.

[MATT111]

I would c/f the flop.

[r0eKY]

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I would c/f the flop.

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why even call the flop RR from utg, this is one of thoes time i can lay qq down pf

[wdead]

If villain is 16/12 i think his range is prob just AK, QQ+
Playing this hand OOP will be tough. You can hope he will fire barrels with AKui but you know these guys never do.

[ffredd]

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why even call the flop RR from utg, this is one of thoes time i can lay qq down pf

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If we could be sure that he has AA or KK and won't fold those hands after a Q hits, then I think the call is marginal but slightly +EV. (We're risking 70 and we have a chance to win 641). The possibility that he has AK or a "bluff" (something like T9s) can't be a reason not to call.

[ffredd]

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If villain is 16/12 i think his range is prob just AK, QQ+
Playing this hand OOP will be tough. You can hope he will fire barrels with AKui but you know these guys never do.

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I'm not sure my hud was displaying any stats on him at the time. What I do know is that I played this hand with him earlier: I raise, and he reraises to 40 in the SB. I call with AQ and flop an A. He bets the flop when I check to him. I call. A third club shows up, and I bet. He calls with a flush draw, without explicit pot odds for the flush.

Not sure if that helps though.

[ffredd]

Does anyone like a B/F on the flop, or any other line that puts some of my money into the pot?