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Old 08-04-2007, 12:05 AM
SpeciesFlora SpeciesFlora is offline
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Default $10 NL - first hand at table facing push on flop

My first hand at this table - this is a clear fold right?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

villain (SB): $4.35
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $11.75
UTG+1: $1.70
MP1: $2.00
MP2: $12.00
CO: $3.00
BTN: $5.55

CO posts $0.10
MP1 posts $0.10
Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8 Players)
2 folds, MP1 checks, MP2 calls $0.10, CO checks, BTN calls $0.10, villain calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">villain bets all-in for $4.25</font>
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Old 08-04-2007, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: $10 NL - first hand at table facing push on flop

opp probably could def have a weaker hand than you but with so many players behind you that could have woken up with a really strong hand I think this is an easy fold. One, the villan could have you crushed. Two, some one behind could have both of you crushed. 3, you invested .10! In a hand where you have no clue where you are at, and being oop makes this a clear fold to me.
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:29 AM
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Default Re: $10 NL - first hand at table facing push on flop

I'd insta fold. Maybe he has 23o, Q2 or something other that wants to take the pot down now. Whatever he has I don't want to play for stacks with TPGK in this situation.
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Old 08-04-2007, 08:12 AM
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Default Re: $10 NL - first hand at table facing push on flop

KQ does not play well in multi-way pots, especially with top pair OOP. I think about it is this way, with five other people in the pot and being in the BB I'm hoping to flop two pair or better, and even then you have to be careful. I play it like any other connectors.

Against two or three limpers that I think I can get to fold I raise and try to squeeze or at least get the hand heads up. With five others in the pot I think this would be spewy as your always going to end up with two or three callers.

As played, fold for all the reasons other's have mentioned.
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Old 08-04-2007, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: $10 NL - first hand at table facing push on flop

Raise preflop - isolate someone and make the junk hands like Q3/Q2/23 and what ever the OOP blind posting fish are checking to fold. If you get reraised then you just found out someones hand strength for cheap as opposed to betting out with your TPGK and someone slow playing AA/KK/33/22.
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Old 08-04-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: $10 NL - first hand at table facing push on flop

Then again with everyone in late position limping, two of who posted in wierd positions and checked. I think this pot could very well be won pf with a raise to say .80. You probably would have seen a raise if someone had you dominated, but impossible to say for sure. Hand reading is hard in the micros [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-04-2007, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: $10 NL - first hand at table facing push on flop

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Then again with everyone in late position limping, two of who posted in wierd positions and checked. I think this pot could very well be won pf with a raise to say .80. You probably would have seen a raise if someone had you dominated, but impossible to say for sure. Hand reading is hard in the micros [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Yeah, I didn't see that they posted, duh.
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Old 08-04-2007, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: $10 NL - first hand at table facing push on flop

That's why I hate this spot in my first hand at the table with no reads...

As it happened, Villain pushed something like 5 of the next 6 hands showing things like K2 and 64o.
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Old 08-04-2007, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: $10 NL - first hand at table facing push on flop

If you single table you could always try taking a seat and not posting for an orbit or so and watch how the table is playing.
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