TT fold vs nit

F. McSimmons · #1 08-23-2007, 08:16 PM

villain is 14/9/2 over around 300 hands..

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, 5 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

Point Blank · #2 08-23-2007, 08:58 PM

that's a pretty dicey call against some with a PFR 9 (who most likely raises according to position)

since you did play it - the 3bet is an insta fold ... you've already put 2bets in; calling now because the pot is 14bet is garbage (you wont make enough back to make this correct)

OziBattler · #3 08-23-2007, 09:27 PM

3 bet preflop. his range is more than just big pairs. I'd say AKs-A10s, AKo-AJo, KQs and 99+. Maybe you could scarp the lower end of that (eg A10s or 99) but PFR of 9 isnt that nitty even though his VPIP is low. Whether he caps or calls your 3 bet will basically tell you if he has a bigger pair or big cards.

Point Blank · #4 08-23-2007, 09:34 PM

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3 bet preflop. his range is more than just big pairs. I'd say AKs-A10s, AKo-AJo, KQs and 99+. Maybe you could scarp the lower end of that (eg A10s or 99) but PFR of 9 isnt that nitty even though his VPIP is low. Whether he caps or calls your 3 bet will basically tell you if he has a bigger pair or big cards.

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that seems way too loose from utg for a 9 ... i generally assume 5% opening from a guy like this

... OP - what is villian's steal%

nerdking · #5 08-23-2007, 10:01 PM

3bet PF, if it's capped you've got a better idea of opponents range. flop bet/3bet isn't too bad. turn fold seems reasonable.

Aaron W. · #6 08-23-2007, 10:48 PM

I would 3-bet preflop for value because you've got a coldcaller in the middle and I would like to see this flop 3-handed (plus the bonus information of getting capped is helpful).

If there were two coldcallers (or a limper and a coldcaller), then I'm more inclined to coldcall because I want to see a 5-6 handed pot with my pocket pair to play for a set and a big pot.

BigBadBabar · #7 08-24-2007, 01:27 PM

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F. McSimmons · #8 08-24-2007, 05:41 PM

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aside from 3flinging this pf, how do you play this?

Buzz-cp · #9 08-24-2007, 07:41 PM

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what do you put him on??

edit: mebbe you're talking about preflop?

BigBadBabar · #10 08-24-2007, 07:49 PM

sorry yea, ew at pf