2/5 live deep - 2nd nuts

[AragornX151]

He might. It's not out of the question, but I think it has to be discounted fairly heavily. He'd be three-betting top set on a 3-straight board with four people who called the flop still to act. Now, this is clearly a +ev move...but one that most people at this club just don't see. They see "OMG, I don't have the nuts and this person just raised the pot against a large field...I can't be ahead." Not always, of course. I'm not saying he never has a set here. But it's much less likely than rational people can believe.

Online, this is an instashove obv.

[NT!]

i'm not good enough to fold here, i don't really have a problem with calling and hoping he shuts down if he's that nitty.

i play live 2/5 here a lot, depending on where the game is i may have something more to say if you can identify the game/villain.

[wtf5]

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FGators, the players at this game are almost never perceptive enough to make a play here with that much less for all their chips due to OP's image...they're thinking, "I can't wait 'til I have the nuts to bust this chump," not "I can shove 200+ BB's with much less here!"

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If the hand is so read specific then surely there isn't much value in posting here no offense. If its a straight then just calc how often you need to be ahead and take a geuss as to if they have 4,5 x% of the time needed.

[Black winter day]

He can def play a set like this.I can't find a fold here.

[AragornX151]

I'm just giving my insight from the particular game in question...my usual response would be the same as you guys, and I'd shove.

[DJ Sensei]

I'm not folding it without a sick read on the turn (which i think you're probably capable of, duck)

my primary plan would be to call and get it in on the turn. you might even be able to turn it into a bluff if the board pairs or something, but i wouldnt count on that being too effective.

[fslexcduck]

ok i guess it wasn't that interesting - anyways i folded and he showed me 45o. excellent. i should have realized his pot sized bet on the flop made it less likely he had the stone nuts on 678r but i wasn't thinking clearly.

the reason i ask about turn plan was he said if i had called he would have shut down. but there's no way to know that and it's sort of a ridiculous thought.

i thought his play was pretty bad in the hand with the action (limped pot and 5 people giving tons of action) but i guess he gets the straight he's waiting for, gotta push it pretty hard... or something.

[TheChad]

hmmm, I really just don't see myself getting away from this. Being in the SB, he could have anything. With a combo of only 7 cards, I say call and let him shut down on the turn. If he does shove, I still can't see it. I give you kudos for making a huge laydown, even though it was wrong. This is such a huge hand and he just feels so donkish to me here.

[FGators]

Did you fold face up? Probably not but j/w.

[fslexcduck]

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Did you fold face up? Probably not but j/w.

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i did because i want people bluffing me always because i fold basically never