$2/$4 Top 2!!

catcher193 · #1 03-28-2007, 08:52 PM

Uhh I got top2, standard?

villian is ahhShark 27.8/21.5 the other idiot is some 34/14.5 fish

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($637.15)
MP ($401)
Button ($358.85)
SB ($384)
BB ($402.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, Button calls $8, SB calls $6, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($32) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $26, Hero calls $26, Button calls $26, SB folds.

Turn: ($110) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets $80, Hero calls $80, Button calls $80.

River: ($350) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets $288.15 (All-In),

Bet The Flop · #2 03-28-2007, 08:55 PM

no offense man, i like ya, but i stopped reading here

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A.
Hero raises to $8,

Jamougha · #3 03-28-2007, 09:01 PM

He has at least one 4 so folding is probably good.

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Loc: min-raising and donk-betting

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qft

KingGordy · #4 03-28-2007, 09:04 PM

Looks good. I can't think of a worse hand he'd v-bet with (maybe KQ but that's thin), and I really doubt he's bluffing here. Flop and turn are good too.

Big_Jim · #5 03-28-2007, 09:05 PM

Fold river.

Postflop is fine and good, IMO.

Sometimes he'll have AK, but he has to fear a 4, so even that is questionable, not to mention he didn't RR PF.

He's probably not bluffing often, because of the donk in the pot.

downtown · #6 03-28-2007, 09:12 PM

If you want to minraise, I think you have to fold this turn.

catcher193 · #7 03-28-2007, 09:50 PM

yeah I mean I folded the river, just wondering how standard this was "give preflop lol"

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no offense man, i like ya, but i stopped reading here

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A.
Hero raises to $8,

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you like me?? wtf??
I have put together a solid month playing unconventionally, constructive discussion on the hand or none at all kthxbye.
and btw no offense is obviously taken.

catcher193 · #8 03-28-2007, 09:57 PM

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If you want to minraise, I think you have to fold this turn.

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I almost did, but then thought he could have diamonds and shut down or C/C most kings on the river which led me towards a turn call.
4 ways to the flop his (almost) PSB really reps a lot of strength, and thinking back a turn fold might look optimal, I am not sure if thats results oriented too much.

Bet The Flop · #9 03-28-2007, 09:57 PM

the constructive criticism is that min raising UTG with aces is awful unless you play very well postflop, which you don't (solid, i'd say). I would probably fold the turn as played- but just know that minraising UTG is awful/not good

it's one thing to go 4x utg, 3x +1, and minraise to open from CO and button specifically to steal and give yourself an opportunity play IP vs guys even if they've got the betting lead in 3-bet pots, but this is inexcusable and i think if you would actually have garnered some results, you'd have figured this out already, duh

catcher193 · #10 03-28-2007, 10:09 PM

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the constructive criticism is that min raising UTG with aces is awful unless you play very well postflop, which you don't (solid, i'd say). I would probably fold the turn as played- but just know that minraising UTG is awful/not good

it's one thing to go 4x utg, 3x +1, and minraise to open from CO and button specifically to steal and give yourself an opportunity play IP vs guys even if they've got the betting lead in 3-bet pots, but this is inexcusable and i think if you would actually have garnered some results, you'd have figured this out already, duh

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lol, whether or not min-raising preflop is optimal is a discussion that nobody will be able to answer with 2 paragraphs.
bet sizing is something I run through my head every single day, and I am experimenting with this right now.
If you think its bad, come sit at my tables, more likely, you find it tough to play against it, because its not popular, and then label it as "bad" without even coming close to the correct amount of analysis for the problem.

sadly most of my threads end up with me defending my preflop play, when I just want a quick checkup on a spot.