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Old 08-01-2007, 07:56 AM
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Default Online 25/50 Turn spot

Villain (TDH) has been running his mouth a bit after a hand where I limped SB, he minraised, I 3-bet pot, he 4-bet, and I shoved (I had AK) - he folded, saying "you're bad enough to have something here." Since then he has reraised me once, and had KTo at showdown (I folded, somebody else played). He appears to play fairly LAG, but not stupid.

Also important, only a few hands earlier I raised AA MP, got called by a solid button, CRed on 853dd, shoved turn Jh and was called by 98, and TDH commented "wtf", so he clearly saw the hand.

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Villain has 7800, I cover.

I open 76hh CO, TDH calls BTN. Blinds fold.

Flop is 9d 5h 4d. I check, he checks.

Turn 2s. I bet 375, he raises to 1330.

Should I consider playing back, and if so, to what amount?
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Old 08-01-2007, 09:38 AM
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I think you should make it about 3400 planning to fold to a shove, and also planning to shove most rivers if he just calls. Maybe shove every river.

Folding and just waiting for a different spot is obviously an option too, especially if this idiot is gunning for you.
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Old 08-01-2007, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: Online 25/50 Turn spot

just fold as played

i had bet the flop
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: Online 25/50 Turn spot

Why did you not bet the flop?
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: Online 25/50 Turn spot

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Why did you not bet the flop?

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bc c-betting 100% of the time is ghey
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Online 25/50 Turn spot

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I think you should make it about 3400 planning to fold to a shove, and also planning to shove most rivers if he just calls. Maybe shove every river.

Folding and just waiting for a different spot is obviously an option too, especially if this idiot is gunning for you.

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i think this is good advice. obviously kod's line is more aggressive than some players might be comfortable takin... so i weight the line more to 60/40 fold/raise. i couldnt really get a grasp of ur opponent just off ur random hand descriptions, but i definitely think this is a spot to consider playing back.. though buildin a big pot OOP is bad..
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: Online 25/50 Turn spot

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Why did you not bet the flop?

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bc c-betting 100% of the time is ghey

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not in this spot.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Online 25/50 Turn spot

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Why did you not bet the flop?

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bc c-betting 100% of the time is ghey

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not in this spot.

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yah not bad spot to cbet.. depends on ur image/pt stats cause if im villain i am so tempted to raise u/float u on this flop. if u have high cbet % but dont mind playing back right then and there w/ur draw then i think cbet is great
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: Online 25/50 Turn spot

if he's gunning for you i would think that he will call you down light if you push, and if you raise he might shove, so i would either just call or fold and wait to trap him
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:38 PM
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if he's gunning for you i would think that he will call you down light if you push, and if you raise he might shove, so i would either just call or fold and wait to trap him

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pls explain logic of just calling? v curious
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