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Old 11-06-2007, 02:56 PM
sh58 sh58 is offline
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Default NFD against Tagfish

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Button ($197)</font>
SB ($972.57)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($218.85)</font>
UTG ($663.55)
MP ($304.10)
CO ($423.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $2, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, Button calls $8, SB calls $8.

Flop: ($30) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $23</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $65</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $42.

Turn: ($160) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($160) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks,
weird hand here. opponent is 19/13/2 over alot of hands

he makes weird plays, like limping sometimes and does strange things postflop. other opponent is a really bad fish (80/20/2). heads up i might get it in on the flop, but his line was pretty strong as the idiot was also in the hand.

once he checks the turn, should i bluff the river?

what range do you put him on?
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:04 PM
BGnight BGnight is offline
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Default Re: NFD against Tagfish

Looks o.k. to me. If he's aggro I'll jam flop though.
This line seems standard. Would like to hear other opinions. I could see him semibluffing 78 which would explain his turn check and river check. I'm not a huge fan of bluffing river. He could have wierdly played Q here.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: NFD against Tagfish

i dont like bluffing river, its too see-through imo... unless your sure you can push him off. i personally prefer pushing over his reraise on flop, but i;ll mix it up with calling depending on player/situation/etc.

think its wierd how he checks behind on turn..
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: NFD against Tagfish

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i dont like bluffing river, its too see-through imo... unless your sure you can push him off. i personally prefer pushing over his reraise on flop, but i;ll mix it up with calling depending on player/situation/etc.

think its wierd how he checks behind on turn..

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yeah i thought he would bet the turn with a set because of the draws. i'm not sure whether he would raise the flop with just top pair and then check it down, also, i'm not sure what his limping button range is. i suppose he wants to see flops with the huge fish
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: NFD against Tagfish

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other opponent is a really bad fish (80/20/2). heads up i might get it in on the flop, but his line was pretty strong as the idiot was also in the hand.


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This is a valid point.


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weird hand here. opponent is 19/13/2 over alot of hands

he makes weird plays, like limping sometimes and does strange things postflop.

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Still I just push the flop being oop vs this guy. I think there's enough draws and pairs we have decent equity against in his range. And our implied odds isn't great being oop with an obvious draw.


I'm not bluffing the river how you play the hand.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:33 PM
KeanuReaver KeanuReaver is offline
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Default Re: NFD against Tagfish

bluffing the river is pretty bad here, i'd make a case for calling the river before bluffing it honestly

this should really be a push on flop, you're oop with a reasonably strong draw and you have a read on this guy that says he does weird things postflop (read: FE).
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:54 PM
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I really think you should shove the flop.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:36 PM
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i'll know how to play it in the future. he had 33
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