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Old 08-11-2007, 09:17 AM
n1nj4.br n1nj4.br is offline
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Default nl200 - 2nd nuts facing donk bet

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Dont have a solid read on villian yet, but seems like a donk, since he has been miniraising pf, c/mr and stuff like that.

Villian line really looks like a hand that I beat but im not sure if those are going to call a push, and I think the nuts might be on his range. What do u guys think.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
2 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

BB: $171.50
Hero (SB): $197.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K T (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($12) Q 8 7 (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8.00</font>, BB calls $8.00

Turn: ($28) J (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $14.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $54.00</font>, BB calls $40.00

River: ($136) 2 (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $22.00</font>, Hero? (villian has 80$ left)
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Old 08-11-2007, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: nl200 - 2nd nuts facing donk bet

I'd just call.
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Old 08-11-2007, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: nl200 - 2nd nuts facing donk bet

i shove ALL day
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Old 08-11-2007, 10:35 AM
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Default Re: nl200 - 2nd nuts facing donk bet

Also Qd is wayyy more likely than Ad, and he cant fold Qd with the pott-odds hes getting. Also he might have something stupid like T9/JJ/whatever and talk himself into calling. Super EZ push
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: nl200 - 2nd nuts facing donk bet

i was thinking about this hand after you made that comment, so i decided to check back on it. and just noticed the 4th diamond!

id usually just call...but i was thinking...how bad as a small raise (maybe even a minraise?!) and fold to a push? He might call a minraise or something with a lone random diamond out of curioity/frustration
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: nl200 - 2nd nuts facing donk bet

I think a miniraise is really interesting
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: nl200 - 2nd nuts facing donk bet

shove shove shove, minraise looks super strong and folds lots of hands that might convince themselves ur bluffing if u shove
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: nl200 - 2nd nuts facing donk bet

Bump, i would like more opinions here.
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: nl200 - 2nd nuts facing donk bet

i've gotten looked up so light in these spots (9T, any diamond, sometimes two pair) that i would happily shove
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: nl200 - 2nd nuts facing donk bet

After reading the hand, but before reading any comments I thought mini-raise would be good.

I doubt that more hands call a bluff because it looks like a shove, than would a miniraise.

Is A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] that likely given your turn raise? I.e wouldn't he bet more on the river with it???

Not to change the subject, but if you think a mini raise would fold out alot of hands that might call a shove, would u fold a set here given ur pot odds are like 7:1???? If so, isn;t a mini raise the most amazing bluff ? I doubt you fold many hands to that raise, so isnt it the best value u raise u can make?
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