NL100 another JJ in 3bet pot hand

[xeanatic]

Villian is 24/20 and I have been 3betting him a few times.
Previous 3bet pot I lost with AQ TPTK vs his straight with jacks.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $51.15
SB: $105.60
BB: $23.40
UTG: $185.80
MP: $137.50
Hero (CO): $96.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $13</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $9

Flop: ($27.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $21</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $42</font>, Hero ?

[BountyKilla]

is he capable of calling a 3bet with qq+ oop ?

[xeanatic]

I really have no clue, have not seen it before but also have not seen him 4betting

[BountyKilla]

a check minraise is usually not a good thing....i hate being a nit but i fold without knowing more

[DaGrunt]

Bad spot to be in. Just call it and see if he gets frisky on the turn, then fold it?

[sightless]

I was wondering if ud post this hand or not O_O
I liked the way i played this hand after he aq hand

edit: aq hand

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $72
BB: $84.75
Hero (UTG): $100
CO: $143.55
BTN: $113.05

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $13</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $9

Flop: ($27.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($27.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $18</font>, BTN calls $18

River: ($63.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $30</font>, BTN calls $30

Results: $123.50 Pot ($2 Rake)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a straight, Eight to Queen) and WON $121.50 (+$60.50 NET)
BTN mucked A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$61 NET)

[KCrow]

If you think he's capable of doing this with 99, TT and AK you could go for a CRAI on the turn. I think it's either fold or call this and get in on a non A or K turn. I find JJ OOP in 3bet pots so hard to play. I'd be really interested to see what others have to say about this.

[fees]

If you've been under his skin I think I would just go with it here, i think its likely enough hes trying to make some stupid play rather than actually show up with QQ+. You can call and let him continue bluffing or just shove, I think both are fine but I probably just go with it and live with the results. Also show us the AQ hand

[spivey]

I call and get it in on turn.

I don't think a fold is terrible though.

[xeanatic]

[ QUOTE ]
I was wondering if ud post this hand or not O_O
I liked the way i played this hand after he aq hand

edit: aq hand

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $72
BB: $84.75
Hero (UTG): $100
CO: $143.55
BTN: $113.05

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $13</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $9

Flop: ($27.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($27.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $18</font>, BTN calls $18

River: ($63.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $30</font>, BTN calls $30

Results: $123.50 Pot ($2 Rake)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a straight, Eight to Queen) and WON $121.50 (+$60.50 NET)
BTN mucked A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$61 NET)

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lol did not know u was 2+2