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Old 03-29-2007, 05:22 AM
Jouster777 Jouster777 is offline
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Default This feels awfully weak, 50NL

Betting villain is 25/9/2 over 100+ hands. Other villain is unknown. <font color="blue">Should have bet turn or flop but should I have called the river? </font>

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($15.15)
CO ($111.45)
Button ($21.05)
SB ($8.15)
Hero ($52.95)
UTG ($20.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CASH(N)CLAYSPECIALEXCLAMATIONPOINT calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.5</font>, Hero calls $0.50.

Turn: ($2.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.5</font>, Hero calls $0.50.

River: ($3.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $6.65 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds, CASH(N)CLAYSPECIALEXCLAMATIONPOINT folds.

Final Pot: $10.15
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Old 03-29-2007, 05:25 AM
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Default Re: This feels awfully weak, 50NL

Bad LAG villain sees the above hand and pulls this about 3 hands later. This time the call's more obvious:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($26.70)
Button ($111.45)
SB ($21.95)
Hero ($51.20)
UTG ($32.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $0.50, MP (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks.

Turn: ($2) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, SB folds.

River: ($5) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $2.

Final Pot: $9
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Old 03-29-2007, 05:56 AM
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Default Re: This feels awfully weak, 50NL

Hand one bet flop is there a reason not to? Playing so weak sets yourself up for hands like that.
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Old 03-29-2007, 06:02 AM
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Default Re: This feels awfully weak, 50NL

1) Fold the river. You gave him the opportunity to price himself in with his minibets. I don't mind the passive play since you have no kicker at all and it's not HU.

2) OK. I make it $1.8 on the turn, though. And think about raising preflop to buy the button.
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Old 03-29-2007, 07:23 AM
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Default Re: This feels awfully weak, 50NL

Hand 1

I think these guys fold to a 4x raise of the min bet on the flop, if they call I would tend to put them on a pair, and not a draw.

Hand 2

I don't mind the non raising of an A10s pf when playing out of the blinds, but here we are in the BB, w/ a bad lag whose limped utg, a poster in MP who just checks, and now a SB just completing. This looks like a good spot for a raise, and with A10s I'd be happy to pick up the pot here, and if not, maybe see a flop holding a decent high card against one opponnent.
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Old 03-29-2007, 07:59 AM
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Default Re: This feels awfully weak, 50NL

No this is a good fold. The flop call isn't that bad, but his turn bet is so weak that you have to reraise.
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