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Old 01-30-2007, 04:38 PM
ciscociskers ciscociskers is offline
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Default river raise with semi dirty board?

I've been at the table for approx 3 orbits. Villain is loose and will continue on for one bet if catches any piece of the board i.e. bottom pair, FD, SD etc. Villain will also c-bet if PFR. Have seen villain fold on river twice to aggression.

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.05/$0.1
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7.4SB, 3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5.2BB, 3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8.2BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 folds, Hero ???
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:40 PM
BigBadBabar BigBadBabar is offline
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Default Re: river raise with semi dirty board?

no, call, and nh.
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: river raise with semi dirty board?

Unless you have a specific read this Villain will donk it with TP, I'd just call and then kick myself when hit turns over AT
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: river raise with semi dirty board?

cisco,

I would have to be able to fold to a 3-bet with a clear conscience to raise here. I call.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: river raise with semi dirty board?

I agree wit da boyz abuv. Werd to meye speling.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: river raise with semi dirty board?

This is waaay closer to a fold than a raise.
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: river raise with semi dirty board?

He's obviously really dumb because he'd checkraise you if he wasn't.

So he probably made it and didnt want you to check behind.
Either way, call and write a player note.
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: river raise with semi dirty board?

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he'd checkraise you

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More likely he was getting in a value bet when he could. OP, call, don't raise. You'll most probably get 3-bet if you raise here. Sucks......
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: river raise with semi dirty board?

*grunch*

Is there a 1 in 9 chance he is bluffing or you are ahead? Seems so. Call.

Edit: Sorry, didn't realize the question you were considering was whether to raise or not. When villain comes alive it's time to call.
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