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Old 11-22-2007, 01:50 AM
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Default A c/r semibluff on the turn with OESD (200nl)

This villain is an aggro donk who has been running hot on this table. 40/25/3, his turn aggression is very high - Ive double barreled the turn into him several times and he has raised or shoved but I havent been able to look him up with A high or whatever I had. He should have a very wide range to be betting the turn with in this hand.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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BTN: $321.10
SB: $726.65
BB: $642.55
Hero (UTG): $301.70

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BTN calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $13</font>, BTN calls $13

Turn: ($43) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $24</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $72</font>

Thoughts on this line? This is the first time I have c/red the turn at all on this table.
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: A c/r semibluff on the turn with OESD (200nl)

If he's been floating a lot it's ok, but he's not folding a Jack or better.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: A c/r semibluff on the turn with OESD (200nl)

i like this line alot... its hard for him to continue obvi... but there are also so many cards on riv that he has to fold to a shove for if he continues in the first place
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:16 AM
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Default Re: A c/r semibluff on the turn with OESD (200nl)

ok so he thought for a while and called. River is the A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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Old 11-22-2007, 04:21 AM
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Default Re: A c/r semibluff on the turn with OESD (200nl)

i like the line. bet river like 3/4 pot or something.
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:21 AM
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Default Re: A c/r semibluff on the turn with OESD (200nl)

Hm I think I might really like a shove on that river. I mean he's prolly not on a random 9 and unless he's not a complete staiton he should be folding.
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: A c/r semibluff on the turn with OESD (200nl)

what do you guys think he has after the turn call? A stubborn J? A 9 is right in his range too.
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: A c/r semibluff on the turn with OESD (200nl)

I check the river. I find that donks think like "Well, he's betting this Ace like it helped him, which means he was bluffing before (probably), so he could still be bluffing now". And he could have a 9
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: A c/r semibluff on the turn with OESD (200nl)

Yeh Id be interested to hear some debate about shoving river/giving up - once he calls the turn its not like the A really changes much. Of course he could be on a draw himself too.
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