Whats up with the Odds maker bannner?

[PropPlayer]

Perhaps I’m way out of place here but I’ve been thinking about making this post for a while and am finally pulling the trigger here.

I think 2+2 made a very poor decision in taking on sponsorship or adds from oddsmaker.com. It’s mostly likely that they are not aware of the history of that company and how poor their reputation is in the industry. I know there have been threads before where people have said to avoid BetUSA.com and now here is another book started by BetUSA which even worst now operates on the Future Bet system (Future Bet handles the oddsmaker.com cashier).

The reason this bothers me so much is that every time we participate in a thread here we are helping aid Oddsmaker.com marketing efforts. If it was a mediocre or even low quality sportsbook then not a huge deal. It becomes a bigger deal though when their host (Future Bet) has countless complaints which have accumulated against them over the years of slow pays, no pays, unfair rule changes, grading errors, canceling bets after games are started etc etc. The list of problems with this operation goes miles long.

This post will probably be pointless but if others have thoughts on this then please post them here.

Personally I think if 2+2 wants this section of their forum to improve they can start by changing sponsors. I think there will be plenty who are turned off by this forum when they see the oddsmaker.com ads, and even worst there will be people here who will see that banner as a form of an endorsement and will end up joining and then being scammed by Oddmaker.com

[NajdorfDefense]

agree 210%

[paperchamp]

Thirded.

[jek187]

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Perhaps I’m way out of place here but I’ve been thinking about making this post for a while and am finally pulling the trigger here.

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No way you're out of line here. I think a warning about Oddsmaker should be stickied.

It takes < 5 minutes to got to SBR and see that in no way should they be sending their customers to Oddsmaker.com. Everyone at 2+2 who was involved in this decision should be ashamed of themselves. This was laziness at best, and a conscious decision to let their members be taken advantage of in return for money at worst.

I say sticky a warning.

[Thremp]

Choo Choo?

[TheGame1020]

I agree this is a horrible decision by 2+2.

[Mat Sklansky]

We asked the people at Oddsmaker to address your issues. They provided us with the following statement:

"All new Oddsmaker.com

Oddsmaker.com is under new management. Beginning in March 2007, we have been making significant changes to improve the overall quality of service we provide to our customers.

Though we remain a licensee of Future Bet, as independent operators we have implemented cutting edge technology to meet the ever evolving demands of our industry.

Oddsmaker.com continues to use the future bet software platform but with the following upgrades: a totally revised website, new management, and our own processing and customer support team that is completely independent of Future Bet’s operations.

As a result, we have grown in leaps and bounds, but without skipping a beat when it comes to customer support and concerns.

We are demonstrating a strong marketing commitment going forward. Our online presence at TwoPlusTwo.com is reflective of our advertising efforts. We are also marketing at other well known sites such as Covers, TheRx, and EOG.com to name a few.

We are offering more promotions and incentives than ever before. We are dedicated to deliver prompt payouts and alternative deposit methods. Furthermore, we have a marketing budget geared to grow the site to newer standards and higher levels.

We welcome your feedback on how we can make your experience at oddsmaker.com a more pleasant one.

Regards,

Oddsmaker.com"

[Performify]

Thanks, Mat.

-P

[brendanb438]

8/15/2007 11:02 PM
Oddsmaker (SBR rating D-) slow-paying clients including its non-US players. The sportsbook has been relisted in the SBR rating guide as a member of the Futurebet Group of sportsbooks and should be avoided. Oddsmaker is now relying on Futurebet's cashier and PlayerSupport services as well as its software. The group's payout complaints are on the rise as they are each year before the start of the betting season.

Player: i am ******* from morocco i send you this email to do a complaint i am a player in Oddsmaker.com( Account # ***** ) it is now 3 mounth i did the request for my third withdrawal request for an amount of 4000 euros and my request has not yet released please contact the bookmaker and ask it to send me my winnings , i am very tired to contact it without answer.


They can hang all new bells and whistles for people to deposit to, but the bottom line is FutureBet still handles the damn money. Which means 6 month + payout waits for any real amounts. Come on 2+2 don't fall for this shiat.

There customer service is still the same as FutureBet's wonderful support for cashout issues. Any chance we can get companies like Enron to start advertising on here too??

[MyTurn2Raise]

futurebet's cashier is the worst

a few years ago, they were taking a month plus to pay out on affiliated poker and sportsbetting sites

it has only gotten worse with time and should be avoided

oh well, if the poker players here deposit without researching, they deserves what they gets