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Old 10-23-2007, 10:29 PM
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Should we be suspicious that UTG+1 is raising instead of shoving? At the lower stakes I find this usually means AA/KK/AK

[/ QUOTE ]I was familiar with his ss play and correctly put suited connectors in his range he had QTcc
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:34 PM
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I'm sure you realize but your range should be tighter and tighter the further you are from closing the action.

[/ QUOTE ]I assume you are referring to the second push? I was last to act...
Edit: initial raiser's call was trivial.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:47 AM
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fold 100% of the time

goggles is absolutely right.

and the fact you were the final action makes a stronger case for folding a weak hand like AJ w/ that action...
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:46 AM
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and the fact you were the final action makes a stronger case for folding a weak hand like AJ w/ that action...

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huh
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:44 AM
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Default Re: Spewing in the $100r?

this hand is very player dependent and without a read on middle position it is hard to make the correct choice here. Since he is unknown to you, then I probably fold preflop if you have seen him fold for a few rounds in a row. IT is still a close call though and I am probably overshoving.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:35 PM
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calling over a 1/3 of your stack in a 3-way pot with a hand like AJ is not the thing to do.
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Old 10-24-2007, 02:35 PM
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calling over a 1/3 of your stack in a 3-way pot with a hand like AJ is not the thing to do.

[/ QUOTE ]ok, now explain why, pls...

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and the fact you were the final action makes a stronger case for folding a weak hand like AJ w/ that action...

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huh?
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Old 10-24-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Spewing in the $100r?

its obv u crush utg's range but whats mp1's range or rather what should mp1's range be? a 10+ kq,55+? like 43% vs that range.
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:38 PM
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there was a early allin (regardless if he is loose or not) and the MP1 player reshoved, so you gotta assume you are probably crushed at the very least by the MP1 (JJ+ AK) - with him shoving to isolate you gotta give him credit for a solid range.

Now if it walked around to you then you have points for calling the UTG allin, given that he is shoving consistently w/ a wide range.

and what I meant by last action is you have seen all of the above happen in front of you, and in that situation AJ should be an easy fold. It isn't that strong of a hand.

and putting in a 1/3 of your stack and being easily dominated is bad no matter how you look at it. Wait for a better spot, you had a decent stack.

I mean you may of won in this situation, but still...
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Old 10-24-2007, 09:06 PM
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its obv u crush utg's range but whats mp1's range or rather what should mp1's range be? a 10+ kq,55+? like 43% vs that range.

[/ QUOTE ]I think that's a reasonable range for him and I was getting 2-1, how much equity do I lose if I am 60-65% vs the shorter stack's range? I don't know the math on that...

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and putting in a 1/3 of your stack and being easily dominated is bad no matter how you look at it. Wait for a better spot, you had a decent stack.

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I'm just looking for +ev. I am willing to play the stack preservation game a bit in other spots where I have a bigger advantage over the field, sometimes.
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