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Old 10-15-2007, 11:51 AM
gobboboy gobboboy is offline
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Default Re: A5s in blind battle.

This hand really isn't that interesting, I bet 6k pretty quickly and he called with T5o.

Randal told me to post this thread to level some bitches and I said okay. I thought this was a very easy valuebet at the time because his range is almost exclusively a five.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:07 PM
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baltosar you have the most backward, unintuitive way of thinking of EV as I have ever seen. You should never consider the EV of a hand by the max you "should" be making with it, it is all about making the most you can possibly make given the situation.

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I think Baltostar's ideas regarding expected EV given a particular hand are actually conceptually similar to those expressed in Professional NLH Volume 1, which focuses on SPR (stack-to-pot ratio) and optimal SPR's for given hands. So perhaps we'll be seeing a book by Baltostar published by 2p2 in the near future.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: A5s in blind battle.

In this case, I don't think Baltostar is FOS.

Despite results, river is close decision.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: A5s in blind battle.

i'd either bet or crai
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:07 PM
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i'd either bet or crai

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you are the worst at river check raises
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: A5s in blind battle.

gobbo most villains will bet their midpair on the flop and rightfully so.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:46 PM
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gobbo most villains will bet their midpair on the flop and rightfully so.

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same goes for hero, theres no deception involved through checking a pair of fives and sneaking in a value bet on river
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: A5s in blind battle.

fold
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:08 PM
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Limping is fine, but on pairing a 5 (bottom 1/3 of rank range) you need to bet that flop. Free card here is a clear mistake. Plus you're pushing the boundary of reasonable expectation for this hand -- asking for trouble.

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What is the "boundary of reasonable expectation for this hand" ???

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its, like, this boundary.........and it bounds reasonable expectations in

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ahhhhhhh i see what u did there

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you know, i dont think i was actually going for it when i did it but i see what i did there now as well. maybe i was, subconsciously.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:17 PM
AcTiOnJaCsOn AcTiOnJaCsOn is offline
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Default Re: A5s in blind battle.

c/c river vrs a bad player bet vrs a thinking one
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