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Old 10-09-2007, 01:26 AM
Superfluous Man Superfluous Man is offline
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Default 100r: FPS with TT

Fairly new to the table, so no solid reads. The hand before, the villain (someone told me he was Shannon Shorr, but told me after the hand took place; anyway, I have no idea how he plays so I guess it doesn't make a difference) had 3bet me preflop and I folded. For this reason, I got the idea that his cold-call here was at least kind of strong, but I'm not really sure.

Generally, I bet this flop, or maybe c/r this flop. I really had the feeling that I was up against some sort of overpair, or two high cards, and that it was my best way to get some value. Also, if I bet and he raises, I'm in a pretty gross spot. Meh. I guess I'll just shut up and let people pillory me now.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t500/t1000
(Ante: t100)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t74142
UTG+1: t22493
Hero: t42079
MP2: t42016
MP3: t26052
CO: t59666
Button: t33520
SB: t57218
BB: t19685

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t3000</font>, MP2 calls t3000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t5400)</font>, 5 folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t8400, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets t5500</font>, Hero calls t5500 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t13900)</font>.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t19400, 2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t19400, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets t7500</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t33479</font>
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: 100r: FPS with TT

If he shows the propensity to 3bet, then why would he cold call when he DOES have a monster?

I would bet/call the flop.

So you're representing a poorly played AK on the river? I wouldn't believe you.
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:32 AM
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Default Re: 100r: FPS with TT

you went for the check shove on turn and missed, good thing you got it on the river (is what he'll think, TID)
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:44 AM
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Default Re: 100r: FPS with TT

I really don't get this hand.
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:47 AM
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Default Re: 100r: FPS with TT

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I really don't get this hand.

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neither do i...which is why i posted it.
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:52 AM
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Default Re: 100r: FPS with TT

So it's a two-way bet? I can just about see this going two ways but neither way very often. I'd just call the river. As a matter of interest, did you shove this on instinct because he bet so small on the river?
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: 100r: FPS with TT

this is pretty brutal. you really are representing... nothing.
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: 100r: FPS with TT

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So it's a two-way bet? I can just about see this going two ways but neither way very often. I'd just call the river. As a matter of interest, did you shove this on instinct because he bet so small on the river?

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I didn't shove "on instinct" when he bet really small on the river. That is to say, it's not like I saw he bet tiny on the river and instashoved. The bet size did have something to do with it, though. It made me think he was going for a thinnish value bet with some hand that I couldn't beat, and that he would fold to a shove.

I really think he expected me to c/c the river with something like TT-77, so...i craied. I mean, I probably should have done something earlier in the hand to avoid getting in this spot, but once there, it seemed like an ok play.

Also, I think the only things I'm representing are super slowplayed sets that whiffed checkraises on the turn, or perhaps 45 that whiffed a c/r on the turn.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:46 AM
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It made me think he was going for a thinnish value bet with some hand that I couldn't beat, and that he would fold to a shove.



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Such as? How does he get here with a J, K, or QQ that he folds now? As I said, I can see it, but not very often (either having it, or folding it).
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Old 10-09-2007, 08:24 AM
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Generally, I bet this flop, or maybe c/r this flop. I really had the feeling that I was up against some sort of overpair, or two high cards, and that it was my best way to get some value. Also, if I bet and he raises, I'm in a pretty gross spot. Meh. I guess I'll just shut up and let people pillory me now.


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So, instead of doing either of these, you shove when you are even more likely to be behind based on you beleiving he was relatively strong?
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