600NL: QJs

Kristian · #1 04-11-2007, 08:22 PM

Please comment on any part of this hand. It made me unhappy. Villain is 23/12/4.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($905)
Hero ($591)
Button ($1384)
SB ($609)
BB ($589.85)
UTG ($525)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $18, 1 fold, Hero calls $18, 2 folds, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($57) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $45, BB raises to $120, UTG folds, Hero calls $75.

Turn: ($297) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $245, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $542

dchz · #2 04-11-2007, 08:52 PM

do you think you have no FE on the flop 150bb deeP

Kristian · #3 04-11-2007, 08:55 PM

Yes, that's what I feared. Maybe I was too pessimistic.

tufat23 · #4 04-11-2007, 08:56 PM

bb is repping a pretty strong hand, his preflop numbers are kinda nitty so i guess 66 is right there.

i think i gamble, but i understand your line

Eagles · #5 04-11-2007, 09:00 PM

I shove the flop for sure. He can def c/r worse draws here.

True · #6 04-11-2007, 09:02 PM

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bb is repping a pretty strong hand, his preflop numbers are kinda nitty so i guess 66 is right there.

i think i gamble, but i understand your line

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IMO his pf numbers are not much different from a 24/20 in this spot.

I actually think he is more likely to repop JJ pf and less likely to repop AK pf which actually favours our hand here. (given he can fold AK or AQ). If we also imagine that vill can't have a better FD (in terms of equity against our hand since we have a pair with ours) then I think a shove makes sense.

His aggro number aswell is high which means he may overvalue hands and be a more betty/foldy type person.

True · #7 04-11-2007, 09:03 PM

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I shove the flop for sure. He can def c/r worse draws here.

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calling might be better vs worse draws

wdead · #8 04-11-2007, 10:08 PM

you played this hand fine

SuperPokerJedi · #9 04-11-2007, 10:23 PM

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his preflop numbers are kinda nitty

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but this is post-flop no?? !?

RiverHebrew2 · #10 04-11-2007, 10:34 PM

With position, I don't mind your flop flatcall. However, I would normally 3bet this to $375 and obv call shove. This is jus becuzc, IMO, you HAVE to make your hand on the turn or face a big bet, pricing you out. If you think about it, flop is reraise/call shove or fold. * on a side note- J or diamond on the turn=11 outs x2= 22% to make a hand then.