$27 bubble SB vs BB

[Olback]

Villian was reasonable and could make cont bets.

He was unlikey to have limped with an ace.

Hero??

PokerStars Game #4211465730: Tournament #20933491, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/03/07 - 21:07:06 (ET)
Table '20933491 1' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: Olback (2515 in chips)
Seat 4: dali lhama (4805 in chips)
Seat 5: Kibbie (3080 in chips)
Seat 7: trendsetter (3100 in chips)
Olback: posts the ante 25
dali lhama: posts the ante 25
Kibbie: posts the ante 25
trendsetter: posts the ante 25
trendsetter: posts small blind 200
Olback: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Olback [Ts 4s]
dali lhama: folds
Kibbie: folds
trendsetter: calls 200
Olback: checks
*** FLOP *** [8s As 4d]
trendsetter: checks
Olback: bets 500
trendsetter: raises 2175 to 2675 and is all-in
Olback: ??

[MikeMcQ1]

Ole, you never use this: CONVERTER. Why?

If I was going to play this hand, it's a push on the flop. As played, I'd be kicking myself for doing that and would have timed out attending to my bloody shins.

Actually, I think I may still fold. And hope to steal my way back into contention, though I don't know that that's best.

EDIT: I didn't see the flop had 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]s...Yes I call. But I would have still pushed, and it's no longer a maybe.
Dangit Ol, use the converter!

[shortline99]

I call this raise every time.

And yes, I would push the flop when checked to, since this is probably a flop you were hoping for.

[jcope111]

Folding here sounds right.

You very well could already be behind, and if by chance you're not your opponent most certainely has outs.

Bottom line, I think you need a really good read that your opponent is bluffing to call for all your chips with bottom pair.

[shortline99]

You're a coin flip at worst even if your opponent has a pair of aces (unless it's two pair or AT). And you could even have the best hand right now. Given the money already in the pot, and your situation after folding, this is clear call in my book.

[Olback]

Yeah i think i should have pushed.

I would have pushed over his bet.

[durron597]

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And yes, I would push the flop when checked to, since this is probably a flop you were hoping for.

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[jcope111]

You're right Short.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Once in this position, calling sounds right.

[bigballz]

I am actually suprised there is much of an argument here. You are getting better than 2:1 on a hand that is pretty much always even money or you may even be a favorite. Forget this being the bubble, shorties rarely survive. CALL.

Oh and I think this may be because some people are missing your flush draw.

[jcope111]

That is why big, I did miss the flush draw.