TT in EP and 3-bet from BB

Fantam · #1 09-02-2007, 03:00 PM

The opponents in this hand were all a bit fishy (loose passive), but not many hands on BB so far.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 4 folds, SB calls, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, MP1 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero...???

With BB 3-betting pf and leading the flop, I thought that there would be a good chance of his leading the turn.

Also this flop looked as dry to me as it could almost get, being a rainbow with no likely straight draws.

So, would this be a good time to bring out the dreaded slowplay [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] and call the flop bet, with the intention of raising the turn ?

The + to this play is that you may get overcalls from the 2 loose limpers behind you, with a hand that does not seem to be very vulnerable. You also have position on the BB, and can bet the turn if he only checks.

The - to this play, is that you may simply lose additional bets (by not raising the flop) from the BB if he has an overpair to the flop. AKo would probably also call a flop raise, but might check/fold the turn unimproved.

What do you think ?

kerowo · #2 09-02-2007, 03:05 PM

What is BB's 3-bet range? This isn't a bad place to slowplay. You are unlikely for villain to improve to a hand that beats you but he could improve to a better hand that is worse than yours. I wait for the turn and raise.

Fantam · #3 09-02-2007, 03:11 PM

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What is BB's 3-bet range?

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BB was a bit of an unknown at this stage. So, I would have given him a standard 3-bet pf range of say AA-TT and AK.

neurotiq · #4 09-02-2007, 03:18 PM

I think I like the idea of waiting until the turn to raise. If he has AA-JJ, he'll probably show it down no matter where you raise. If he has AK, he's likely to start thinking to fold if you were to raise on the flop.

KitCloudkicker · #5 09-02-2007, 03:05 PM

calling is fine here

Aaron W. · #6 09-02-2007, 04:00 PM

I would raise now. If he has an overpair, hopefully he'll 3-bet so I can still smooth call and raise the turn. If he has AK, he may not donk the turn for me, which is bad.

KitCloudkicker · #7 09-02-2007, 04:06 PM

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I would raise now. If he has an overpair, hopefully he'll 3-bet so I can still smooth call and raise the turn. If he has AK, he may not donk the turn for me, which is bad.

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wouldnt it be better to allow the SB to make a hand?

RemyXO · #8 09-02-2007, 04:14 PM

I would slowplay the flop. The texture is awful for your opponents.

tyler_cracker · #9 09-02-2007, 04:23 PM

no one has mentioned the size of the pot. it isn't small.

Sushiglutton · #10 09-02-2007, 05:10 PM

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no one has mentioned the size of the pot. it isn't small.

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This is a very important factor. In a big pot like this LP will probably call a raise with OC's, any type of pair, gut-shots, basically a lot of their possible holdings. And no reason to let BB make a hand, since I would be very suprised if he folds.