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Re: 20/40 Settle a Debate
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online if someone took ben's line against me i'd put him on an overpair, but i'm not sure how applicable this is live. any chance villain has aa or kk? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah there is a chance. That's why I call down. You're in position and can make sure exactly two bets goes in from here so I don't really see the downside. Putting three more bets in after passive villian threebets is no good. |
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Re: 20/40 Settle a Debate
Call down. Theres more than enough posibility that he doesn't put you on a six and got spazzy with something else. Or that you will chop. Or that you hit your outs...blah blah blah.
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Re: 20/40 Settle a Debate
I'm not 4betting the turn, if that's what you mean. I'll be having an internal debate as to whether or not to raise the river, but probably end up just calling. I certainly think I'm still ahead right now. I'm cautious about 4betting because he may have nothing at all, and then he may have me beat. I still expect to win this pot, but I don't think raising does anything good for me.
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Re: 20/40 Settle a Debate
i had a similar hand like this at a live 15/30 game at artichoke joes;
6s7s in early cutoff, raise against a bored table, call from SB. flop is 662, no flush. i bet, SB calls. turn is a Q. i bet, SB RR, i RR, SB calls. river 4, i bet, SB calls, shows AQo. i show, and he immediately starts muttering about me raising with trash etc etc. the reason i mention this hand (yes i know its not exactly the same situation as yours), is that villain will overplay his top pair or try to get cute with Ax *often enough* to warrant a 4bet. so i think if you bet/call a brick river, you will see an overpair often enough to justify the extra bets/risk. |
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Re: 20/40 Settle a Debate
swope: you have position screwed up.
Jeffage: I have you owned, but remember what I said. |
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swope: you have position screwed up. Jeffage: I have you owned, but remember what I said. [/ QUOTE ] right you are, my bad. |
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Re: 20/40 Settle a Debate
fwiw I am considering folding the river ui, but probably stick in a crying call hoping for a chop if another big card comes. Not sure why there is a debate about the turn unless its whether you should raise at all. Lps are unlikely to cr the flop with anything other than a 6. I would really want to pound the flop. If he has a pair he will freeze up if paint comes and we dont have to lose 3bbs when he has us crushed. I have found that the best place to extract value from LPs is on the sb streets when they are less scared.
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