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Old 11-30-2007, 10:25 PM
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Default $5 AJ thoughts ?

My first STT in 6 months. Goofing around.

2nd Hand so no read.
Villian took half his time bank on the turn call. Comments on all streets welcome.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t1480)
Hero (t1490)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1550)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t60, UTG calls t60.

Flop: (t250) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t250) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t20</font>, UTG calls t20, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, BB folds, UTG calls t230.

River: (t770) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:28 PM
The Lipo Fund The Lipo Fund is offline
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Default Re: $5 AJ thoughts ?

fold preflop

cbet flop?

check behind river. the only way he folds is if he has a missed club draw or an 8. you gain no value by betting
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: $5 AJ thoughts ?

I think folding/calling with AJ is better preflop.
It is a hand with little value and bad reverse implied odds.
Turn raise is okay I guess, if you think you can fold out 9s 8's 7's 3's.
I give up on the river after him calling my big turn raise.
You just have A high or am I missing something?
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: $5 AJ thoughts ?

oh come on you nits. AJ on the button is an easily raisable hand. Raise is fine OP.

However, bluffing at this board is not so sexy. Too many draws he'll call with, plus the fact that after you lack of a cbet random-donk-A will not believe you have anything on the turn.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:38 AM
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I actually do not generally like raising over EP limper in L1 with AJ. It's certainly worth mentioning even if you dont sacrifice all of your EV doing it.

As played I dont really like the turn raise multi way here, its really not a good bluff card and people at this level just dont lay down wide enough ranges as it stands esp. after the flop checks through. id rather just call this.
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: $5 AJ thoughts ?

Alex

When u call the turn and u get checked to or donkbet/called on the river would u bluff the river ??
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: $5 AJ thoughts ?

I think it looks alot like cash game play.

I think standard is to just be a nit and call/fold pf, c/f flop, call turn, c/f river. Not worth all of this so early unless stt strategy changed alot in the last few months.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: $5 AJ thoughts ?

i hate UTG limpers... there in the same category as min bettors
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: $5 AJ thoughts ?

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i hate UTG limpers... there in the same category as min bettors

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Agreed.
Also A/J raise on the button is good. But why raise the turn?? You have nothing. calling his bet maybe ok since its a min bet of 20.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:07 PM
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Like Preflop, like flop, flat call turn and see cheap showdown.
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