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Old 11-28-2007, 11:18 PM
loxxii loxxii is offline
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Default 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t1950)
SB (t1725)
BB (t5115)
Hero (t4710)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t4685</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t4285 with AQo like an idiot.

Flop: (t9045) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t9045) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t9045) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t9045

I was wrong. So do most people fold this preflop?
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:30 PM
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Default Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push

Depends what call ranges you have other players, esp BB on. Against donkish BBs I fold, but against good ones, stacks are so close to equal that you might be able to expect them to fold everything except like QQ+.
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push

holy [censored] are you serious ? fold this pronto !

BB(or anyone else in the hand for that matter) is never calling tight enough to make this +EV.
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push

BE w/ BB at 5%, SB @ 12% and BTN at 10%, you don't think you get that holy? All players should be calling significantly tighter based on pure ICM than those above ranges, I think they're pretty generous.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push

meh vers those are really tight ranges, not saying i would never push this but the stars would have to align pretty well.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push

from btn it becomes an easy shove?
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push

The shorties don't set up well in this hand, they're probably calling too wide &amp; then if we have a moron BB, makes it even worse.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push

BB's call isn't that terrible. He must know that he's way ahead of your range, and if he wins, he's a huge favorite to win 1st. If he loses, he's still got a few chips to try to sneak into 3rd with a couple other short stacks still around.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push

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BB's call isn't that terrible. He must know that he's way ahead of your range

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They are the two big stacks - but I don't think I could fold AQ. Especially if UTG had been doing this a lot.

Maybe this is why I go out on the bubble all the time... I just wouldn't make that fold.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: 16: I thought this was a fairly standard push

Even if BBs call was horrifically bad for him, its worse for us. I don't see any reason at all to shove here.
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