Live 5/5NL Turn Set Bad Board

Big_Jim · #1 11-03-2007, 06:35 AM

Shove. Suck out if necessary.

The other people in the pot are in the blinds, why are you worried about the straight so much? They have all sorts of two pairs and combo draws in their ranges.

McStinky · #2 11-03-2007, 08:57 AM

There are too many other hands they could have besides straights, so I think you have to shove. I could fold here with a superstrong read, but it looks like you don't have that.

HustlerLA · #3 11-05-2007, 01:16 PM

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Shove. Suck out if necessary.

The other people in the pot are in the blinds, why are you worried about the straight so much? They have all sorts of two pairs and combo draws in their ranges.

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effective stacks were 500.

I really botched this hand. The BB seemed very passive and not the type to rasie a combo draw on the turn. At the time I felt a straight was likely and just called hoping to fill up on river, re-evaluate based on his river action. He open pushed for 230ish (PSB approx). The key to the hand that I missed at the time is that I beleive he would have bet had he flopped an Ace, so all his strong 2pair hands arent likely. THis makes a str8 most likely given his passive nature. I ended up calling hoping for 2pair. Were I messed up was if I was going to pay off the river, I needed to push the turn. Thanks for the help.

ddubois · #4 11-05-2007, 02:58 PM

In my opinion, if we shove here, two pair folds. I suppose a couple of combos of aces up might make a mistake and crying call, but those hands don't make sense given flop action. Also, I don't know if I agree with the logic that "if you call a blank river, you should shove turn", because two-pair fold to a turn shove, but value bet a blank river. I guess I'd like to see some math that backs up that assertation.