J9o call down

[HitNRunPoster]

heads-up hand, this guy appears to be decent heads-up and a little on the passive side PF. Nevertheless, he's only folded maybe 3-4 hands out of 80. He doesn't fold too much postflop either and he isn't afraid to put on the gas a bit sometimes, but I've been in the driver's seat the last few hands.

I have J9o on the button and I raise, he calls.

Flop: T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

He checks, I bet, he raises, I call.

Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

He bets, I call.

River: Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

He bets, I call.

[Shillx]

Raise the river Dave

[davelin]

I don't think I get it.

[fretelöo]

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[martybonus]

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word...

raising J9o PF even from LP?


unless i'm missing something, you missed your straight, so why call the last bet? I'm assuming no flush.

so you have...sweet F-A (well, queen high)...why bother seeing showdown here?

i'm not trying to be sarky, but what was up here?

edit: duh, it's HU!

still don't understand it though.

[HitNRunPoster]

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Raise the river Dave

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You think Ax/Kx = 2/9 of his hands? I don't think I'm going to get a worse hand than that to fold...

I don't know if that's my required range or if I should require that Ax/Kx make up 1/9 of his hands instead... Which is the correct approach here?

edit: ninja edited because my question was super-muddled until I did that. The above was my originally intended question.

[Shillx]

NM I didn't see that it is was HU. I thought that you raised from the button and the BB called.

That said I still don't see how you can just call the river

[Aaron W.]

If you're showing this down, you absolutely have to raise the river. The extra 1 BB investment to knock out a hand like Ax/Kx and buy you an entire pot (7 BB) is huge. Otherwise, fold the turn.

[Shillx]

Dave

He is going to check/raise the flop with a ton of hands. Calling the river might be okay given that there are plenty of draws that didn't get there.

Also I don't know how this guy plays but the fact that he bet the river might make a call more viable. Some people will not bet if they just have bottom pair or something so when they bet there is a better then average chance that they are bluffing. Strong players will make those kind of thin value bets so against them you aren't as well off.

There are plenty of reasons to raise the river though. The 1st is that the queen is a great card for you as you could easily hold one. So if he has a small pair he is put to a tough decision. You have to bluff raise from time to time in these HU matches and this is a pretty good spot for one. Also raising is the same as calling when you have him beat so you really aren't risking 2 to win 7 (provided that he never 3-bets as a bluff). You are only risking 1 and IMO that makes it worth it to try and get A-high, K-high or even the same hand to fold.

Footnote: If you play a lot of HU you should sometimes try for a river check/raise bluff in spots like this. How sick would it have been if he check/raised the river in this hand?

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[Dam]

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word...

raising J9o PF even from LP?


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I'm not having that Marty. Your from Scotland arent you? You can't say Word. Nor can you say Holla. (Just in case...)

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