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Old 06-18-2007, 02:34 PM
cougar62 cougar62 is offline
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Default 6.50 Stars QQ vs K on the flop

Early in the tourney, no reads. I usually don't fear K's nearly as A's in this situation so I called the flop to snap off a bluff. Did I donk it up here or not?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t980)
BB (t1480)
Hero (t2050)
UTG+1 (t1780)
MP1 (t1160)
MP2 (t1520)
MP3 (t700)
CO (t1420)
Button (t2410)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t120, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls t120, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (t405) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t240</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls t240.

Turn: (t885) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t800 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1685
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Old 06-18-2007, 02:48 PM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars QQ vs K on the flop

I think if you check this flop then it should be a check/fold not a check/call.
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Old 06-18-2007, 02:53 PM
cougar62 cougar62 is offline
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars QQ vs K on the flop

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I think if you check this flop then it should be a check/fold not a check/call.

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You like a flop bet? (Upon further review I'm thinking I have to bet this flop but I might be biased)
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Old 06-18-2007, 02:55 PM
MagicKK MagicKK is offline
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars QQ vs K on the flop

Check/calling is by far the worst play here. Either C/F or C/R. If you C/R at least you'll know where you are in the hand as oppose to just calling. However I don't advocate anything other than a fold here against an unknown villian.
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Old 06-18-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars QQ vs K on the flop

I dont think it's by far the worst move. But agreed it does suck. Maybe a bigger raise pf to try to thin the field and not have to play OOP to overcards solves this one?
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Old 06-18-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars QQ vs K on the flop

you've already bet 4xbb. I think it's safe to say you're beat here. I agree with kevin. If you check the flop, fold to bet.
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Old 06-18-2007, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars QQ vs K on the flop

I don't mind a check/call when deep stacked in mtts and cash games, it's something I do quite often. Here I'd rather lead out for half the pot and see where I'm at, there are some hands that you beat that will call like 88-JJ. The problem with snapping off a bluff is it could cost u your sng life. I would call the turn if you called the flop to snap off a bluff, I don't know many donks that will shove with tp there.
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Old 06-18-2007, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars QQ vs K on the flop

I would bet the flop! He can also have missed the flop, just make your cbet. If he calls you have to worry but in most cases he folds.
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Old 06-18-2007, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars QQ vs K on the flop

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If you check the flop, fold to bet.

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Old 06-18-2007, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars QQ vs K on the flop

Donk in 250 on the flop and see what he does.This really isnt that bad of a flop for QQ.I dislike either checking option.
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