A few tough spots in 2/4 NL dealing with maximizing value (long)

[AcTiOnJaCsOn]

Heres a few tough hands i played today, all comments appreciated. Heres the first, which is a really tough spot. Im not sure if i can value bet this hand that profitably eventhoiugh it is so likely he doesnt have an ace (Ace king goes all in, A Q and below probably fold). Theres a little less than a pot size bet left on the river, but i may have made him play correctly with a hand liek QQ or JJ by shoving. At the same time im not sure if i get him to pay off if it goes check check and by shoving i protect against the draw (eventhoguht its unlikely he has one) Thoughts?
Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/05/12 - 15:51:44 (ET)
Table 'Asterion V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: msg1234 ($469.10 in chips)
Seat 2: Bart$impson ($425.15 in chips)
Seat 4: lars_vegas ($1015.75 in chips)
Seat 5: BabyGrand ($811.25 in chips)
Seat 6: hero ($404.20 in chips)
BabyGrand: posts small blind $2
hero: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [Ks Kc]
msg1234: calls $4
Bart$impson: folds
lars_vegas: raises $16 to $20
BabyGrand: folds
bberard34 joins the table at seat #3
hero: raises $48 to $68
msg1234: folds
lars_vegas: calls $48
*** FLOP *** [3s As Ad]
hero: bets $70
lars_vegas: calls $70
*** TURN *** [3s As Ad] [2c]
hero: bets $266.20 and is all-in
lars_vegas: folds
hero collected $280 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $282 | Rake $2
Board [3s As Ad 2c]
Seat 1: msg1234 folded before Flop
Seat 2: Bart$impson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: lars_vegas (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: BabyGrand (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Hero (big blind) collected ($280)
Next hand is interesting 2. I lead out here to represent a draw and i get min raised. Shoving seems kind of like an overbet, but a lot of hands pay off puttung me on a flush draw i think and re raising forces me to call all in anyway. Also if im good i dont want to have a scare card to come off and kill my action. He could also have a very good hand. All in all i decided to shove, thoughts here?
PokerStars Game #9876760354: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/05/12 - 15:49:44 (ET)
Table 'Automedon' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: forcewithme9 ($715.45 in chips)
Seat 2: Bart$impson ($411 in chips)
Seat 3: ericontilt ($400.85 in chips)
Seat 4: Renaud ($604.70 in chips)
Seat 5: hero ($425.20 in chips)
hero: posts small blind $2
forcewithme9: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [As Jd]
Bart$impson: folds
ericontilt: raises $12 to $16
Renaud: folds
hero: calls $14
forcewithme9: folds
*** FLOP *** [8h 2h Js]
hero: bets $24
ericontilt: raises $24 to $48
Hugefish2888 joins the table at seat #6
hero: raises $361.20 to $409.20 and is all-in
ericontilt: folds
hero collected $130 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $132 | Rake $2
Board [8h 2h Js]
Seat 1: forcewithme9 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Bart$impson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ericontilt folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Renaud (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: hero(small blind) collected ($130)
Third hand i like my play up to the river, and i think my value bet here might be to thin. Any thoughts here, the villian final tabled the main event one year but i dont know how good he is in cash games. Reflecting on this hand i think my best line is to check call/check fold depending on how often he floats the flop, but im not sure.
PokerStars Game #9876661124: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/05/12 - 15:43:14 (ET)
Table 'Elvira V' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: hero ($464 in chips)
Seat 2: technologic ($394 in chips)
Seat 3: okkid04 ($307 in chips)
Seat 4: Olivier2402 ($407.25 in chips)
Seat 5: Dazarath ($506.65 in chips)
Seat 6: wpr101 ($540.80 in chips)
okkid04: posts small blind $2
Olivier2402: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [Kc Jd]
Dazarath: folds
wpr101: folds
hero: raises $8 to $12
technologic: calls $12
okkid04: folds
Olivier2402: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [4s 8c 3h]
Olivier2402: checks
hero: bets $30
technologic: calls $30
Olivier2402: folds
*** TURN *** [4s 8c 3h] [Kh]
hero: checks
technologic: bets $72
hero: calls $72
*** RIVER *** [4s 8c 3h Kh] [5d]
hero: bets $120
technologic: folds
hero collected $239 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $242 | Rake $3
Board [4s 8c 3h Kh 5d]
Seat 1: hero collected ($239)
Seat 2: technologic (button) folded on the River
Seat 3: okkid04 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Olivier2402 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Dazarath folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: wpr101 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[cbboy]

Thats way too hard to read man. Try converting the hands and putting some space in between the hands as it makes it a lot easier to read and you will be more likely to get replies.

[AcTiOnJaCsOn]

ya sorry all the converter sites i went to didnt work, but the hands are still interesting and i think it can create some good discussion

[dkbball126]

i really like a check on the turn on hand #1 because it will keep the pot smaller on the river if he is slowplaying an ace and will get mid pairs to call on the river if he checks it to you... hand #2 i generally wouldnt push but i guess its fine, your just not gonna get too many calls from hands you're beating besides a huge draw, maybe c/r turn?... hand #3 i usually would c/c river, you take a wierd line and i dont know what you're gonna get called by...

[Flatlanman3]

check turn on hand #1 . heres why, he is never folding an ace regardless, and if you check there tons of players push there reading it as weakness with anything from 55-QQ.

Hand #2 why such a huge overbet... you coulda easily made it $148 and not risked entire stack and gotten the same result.

Hand #3 good.... checking on river also ok if you are confident where you are in the hand and are willing to take a c/c line on river

[mythrilfox]

check turn hand 1
hand 2 wtf?
hand 3 check river