What street do i give up?

FionnMac · #1 10-23-2007, 08:29 PM

Villain is unknown but clearly not great, how is this so far? If he calls turn raise, a river shove will be ~ a psb. Obv timing tells will be a factor but let's assume he thinks for a little while but doesn't tank for ages.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($224.08)
SB ($432.70)
BB ($143.44)
UTG ($400)
Hero ($412.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $16, 1 fold, SB calls $14, 1 fold.

Flop: ($36) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero raises to $36, SB calls $32.

Turn: ($108) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero raises to $86?

tozzy · #2 10-23-2007, 08:31 PM

you think hes folding AdXd to a rivershove?

aislephive · #3 10-23-2007, 08:32 PM

I'd give up on the turn, he isn't folding an ace. He could be donk/folding a J, but he might not even fold that. Flop raise is standard though.

FionnMac · #4 10-23-2007, 09:10 PM

so anyone like firing the turn here?

Morrek · #5 10-23-2007, 09:13 PM

in my experience you have to shove river here(if you raise turn) as he rarely folds turn but "sometimes" folds river. I dunno, I prob just call turn though as it's hard to know if he folds his pair even on the river. Hopefully you get some help on the river

JFsports · #6 10-23-2007, 09:14 PM

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so anyone like firing the turn here?

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not me, I would if it was a J high flop and the A hit the turn though

reup · #7 10-23-2007, 09:15 PM

no they never fold after they mindonk again and sometimes they mindonk/threebet [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Isura · #8 10-23-2007, 09:18 PM

just call call and fold river if you don't improve

PartyScout · #9 10-23-2007, 09:19 PM

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I'd give up on the turn, he isn't folding an ace. He could be donk/folding a J, but he might not even fold that. Flop raise is standard though.

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I agree i think this player with way he is donk betting into you wont let go of any ace.I know if we call its like saying we have nada but anything else seems to be a waste imo in the spot against this type

d2themfi · #10 10-23-2007, 09:20 PM

these spots tilt the [censored] outta me cause i always do the same thing and they cal down with a2. I would give up after the flop. but I would call the turn obv. You have immediate odds to hit ur gut shot plus you can value town the [censored] out of him when you do hit it