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#11
09-08-2007, 04:29 PM
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Re: 200NLCASH I flop a flush but the stacks are VERY deep
This would be crazy if he does it with a set, am I right? I mean, solid villain woouldn't do that. That's why I said maybe 10% chance he does it with a set.
It is just ridicolous to fold a flopped flush. 
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#12
09-08-2007, 04:29 PM
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Re: 200NLCASH I flop a flush but the stacks are VERY deep
Calm down, 3 buyin stacks aren't really that big. You should call here, because you are playing superaggressive in order to not have to worry about folding hands in this spot.
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#13
09-08-2007, 04:36 PM
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Re: 200NLCASH I flop a flush but the stacks are VERY deep
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Calm down, 3 buyin stacks aren't really that big. You should call here, because you are playing superaggressive in order to not have to worry about folding hands in this spot. [/ QUOTE ] It's true that sometimes when I play really aggressive I tilt people and I made some guy put 3BI in when he had a straight on a three flush board and I had the nuts, but that was a different situation. This guy doesn't seem to be steaming. And could be the fourth raise the sign of steaming? He even thought about it for a while which made me think he didn't have the nuts, but close to it and he was afraid that I have the nuts. But in my experience people generally play very catious with such a big stack. It is uncomfortable situation, playing with such a deepstack but he wasn't tough opponent, so I played him.
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#14
09-08-2007, 04:36 PM
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Re: 200NLCASH I flop a flush but the stacks are VERY deep
But with super-aggro, unless you are playing vs LAG is that your opponent is forced to play more straight forward against you. It doesn't mean that villain has a flush, but it is very weird to see that the stacks are going in for the first time here (right?).
The read is that the villain doesn't slow-play, the question is how often is he semi-bluffing, that he reads your betting as a semi-bluff. I can't see him semi-bluffing without an ace, but I don't see why he would push so soon. That doesn't make much sense, whether he has a flush or a set, especially since it wouldn't follow in his read that you would be willing to call an over-shove with a bare ace. I don't see the value in his semi-bluff, here.
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#15
09-08-2007, 04:37 PM
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Re: 200NLCASH I flop a flush but the stacks are VERY deep
I think you gotta call. Folding if he has Ac or a set is a HUGE mistake, and you already have over 1/3 of your stack in the middle of a huuuuge pot. I would have made your 4bet a bit bigger too (more than a minraise) unless I'm reading the converter wrong. One thing that may make this a call for you if you think it's close is that you're not drawing dead even if he has a bigger flush - you have 2 outs to the nuts even if he has AcKc.
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#18
09-08-2007, 06:10 PM
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Re: 200NLCASH I flop a flush but the stacks are VERY deep
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It is just ridicolous to fold a flopped flush. [/ QUOTE ] ever so true. The odds of flush over flush are pretty long. Mathematically, no one has an edge over any one in this situation, unless you can actually lay down the smaller flush. But your right, I don't think I could do it. There is a chance that you are facing a smaller one, though.
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#19
09-08-2007, 09:08 PM
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Re: 200NLCASH I flop a flush but the stacks are VERY deep
Just call his $105 3-bet on the flop. Check/call a blank turn and river, and obv check/fold if a club hits or the board pairs.
The way you played the hand, I would call his shove. Pokerstove his range with any two clubs,AA(with a club) and a set. Btw, you are not VERY deep!
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#20
09-08-2007, 09:33 PM
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Re: 200NLCASH I flop a flush but the stacks are VERY deep
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Just call his $105 3-bet on the flop. Check/call a blank turn and river, and obv check/fold if a club hits or the board pairs. [/ QUOTE ] Sir, that is some quality advice.
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