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Old 06-17-2007, 10:42 AM
Pocketbear Pocketbear is offline
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Default ($12) JJ in BTN reraised from SB. Push or fold?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t20/t40
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1350
UTG+1: t1470
MP1: t1185
MP2: t2055
MP3: t1455
CO: t1620
Hero: t1450
SB: t1430
BB: t1485

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to t80</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls t80 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t140)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t360</font>, 2 folds, Hero?

No reads on the villain. Would you push or fold so early?
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Old 06-17-2007, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: ($12) JJ in BTN reraised from SB. Push or fold?

I hate this. Folding here is fine but definitely do not push. If you're going to play the hand, call and evaluate the flop.

Shut down if overcards come up, even if he checks - he's probably slowplaying.

If undercards come up, you're actually at a disadvantage having position if he cbets a lot. If you were first to act, you could bet, get raised, and fold. However, if he comes out betting, you need to raise (I don't mind a min-raise here), and fold to a re-raise (this is cheaper than check/calling to showdown).
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Old 06-17-2007, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: ($12) JJ in BTN reraised from SB. Push or fold?

fold, no need to risk your stack in this situation
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Old 06-17-2007, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: ($12) JJ in BTN reraised from SB. Push or fold?

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If undercards come up, you're actually at a disadvantage having position if he cbets a lot. If you were first to act, you could bet, get raised, and fold. However, if he comes out betting, you need to raise (I don't mind a min-raise here), and fold to a re-raise (this is cheaper than check/calling to showdown).

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The pot would be like t840 on the flop. How can I reraise without pot-commiting myself?!
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Old 06-17-2007, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: ($12) JJ in BTN reraised from SB. Push or fold?

I lay this down unless he is a maniac
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Old 06-17-2007, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: ($12) JJ in BTN reraised from SB. Push or fold?

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If undercards come up, you're actually at a disadvantage having position if he cbets a lot. If you were first to act, you could bet, get raised, and fold. However, if he comes out betting, you need to raise (I don't mind a min-raise here), and fold to a re-raise (this is cheaper than check/calling to showdown).

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The pot would be like t840 on the flop. How can I reraise without pot-commiting myself?!

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Actually, I can't do simple math this early. Just fold pre-flop.
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