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Old 11-15-2007, 12:26 PM
aaharty aaharty is offline
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Default Re: NL25 KK

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you check the flop, he checks behind. a heart comes up. what do you do?

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Shove.

He has a flush draw almost never here IMO unless it is A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] which already was beating you before the turn. However, he'll have a single heart more often and I don't want to give a one card flush draw a free shot at beating me.

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and what is the difference between pushing the turn now and pushing the flop before? as i see it, with the third heart out there, he's now folding QQ/JJ whereas a flop push he might not be folding. he's still calling with AK/AQ, of coure calling with sets/flushes. i think in this scenario, both players checking the flop was bad for your hand.

when the heart doesn't come up, it changes nothing at all. and when the heart comes up, it's bad for you.

thoughts?

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this is a good point imo but at NL25 with his stats I think he pushes the flop (or even calls your turn shove with the heart) enough that checking the flop is still the best move..
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