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Old 07-26-2007, 05:32 PM
pcallinallin pcallinallin is offline
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Default $5 - 45 player SNG - Silly donkish or opportunistic inflection point?

Bad play? Good opportunity?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button (t3635)
Hero (t455)
BB (t2450)
UTG (t2090)
UTG+1 (t1315)
MP1 (t1200)
MP2 (t2790)
CO (t1655)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t100</font>, UTG+1 calls t100, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t100, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t455</font>, BB calls t405, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t1315</font>, Button calls t1215, BB folds.

Flop: (t3640) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Turn: (t3640) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: (t3640) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: t3640
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:34 PM
illini43 illini43 is offline
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Default Re: $5 - 45 player SNG - Silly donkish or opportunistic inflection point?

Well, you shouldn't have this small of a stack unless you just lost a big pot, but anyways...

I think this is fine. The players already in the pot will probably call, but you'd like a chance to triple or quadruple up.
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: $5 - 45 player SNG - Silly donkish or opportunistic inflection point?

I think this was a donkish move. Your M is 6 which means that you are going to have to play super aggressivly to try and get back into contention but I don't think this was a good spot. UTG min raised, when this happens and you don't have reads alarm bells should be going off, he either has a monster or 66+. UTG+1 smooth calls, which means he probably has a good hand as well. You are going to be on the button next hand which means that you will probably have a better stealing oppurtunity. If UTG players have any type of hand they are calling you have absolutly no FE and your hand sucks against there range. I think this is a terrible move.
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:44 PM
pcallinallin pcallinallin is offline
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Default Re: $5 - 45 player SNG - Silly donkish or opportunistic inflection poi

I had just lost 2 big pots. JJ on button vs AA in BB. Took me from 3000 to 1800 and then QQ vs AJ took me to 555. Min raise into my BB i called w/ 9dTd and folded to a raggedy black flop.

I appreciate both points, and w/ little - no FE I prob shouldve folded and waited around a few more hands. I saw the odds and saw x3+ on my money. Ran into TT UTG+1 and JJ. oops. thanks for the feedback guys.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: $5 - 45 player SNG - Silly donkish or opportunistic inflection poi

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I had just lost 2 big pots. JJ on button vs AA in BB. Took me from 3000 to 1800 and then QQ vs AJ took me to 555. Min raise into my BB i called w/ 9dTd and folded to a raggedy black flop.


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Shove this one.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:22 PM
pcallinallin pcallinallin is offline
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Default Re: $5 - 45 player SNG - Silly donkish or opportunistic inflection poi

I was going to push the flop if I hit anything at all, but it came Ac 4s 5c. so I check folded the flop.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: $5 - 45 player SNG - Silly donkish or opportunistic inflection point?

I think this is fine.

You are getting huge overlay and someone is probably going to shove over the top here a lot to isolate, making this highly profitable.

Some guy, whose name escapes me, is noted for being the best short-stack pot-limit omaha player in the world plays like this a lot. He waits for a hand like this to occur then gets it knowing that he is getting huge overlay.
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