Is this why I'm an overall loser with AA?

Alobar · #1 09-28-2007, 01:22 PM

I have him as 31/24/2 but only over like 90 hands. Hes fairly new to the table (and I think a 2+2er). The hand right before this one, he made a standard raise and I called with QJs, I flopped top 2 and smooth called the flop and raised his turn bet and he folded.

PokerStars $2/$4 No-Limit Hold'em - 5 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Button: $437.90
SB: $406.00
BB: $473.70
UTG: $748.30
CO: $1027.00

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $16, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($34.00) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $30, BB raises to $104, Hero calls $74.

Turn: ($242.00) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $176, Hero raises to $352, BB raises to $353.70 (all in), Hero calls $1.70.

After I call the flop raise, is he going to lead the turn with a draw, or is it always 2pair or better? Im new to 2/4 so im just assuming everyone is hyper aggresive. Should I have just shoved the flop since there are so many draws I wont know whats a good turn and what isnt, so just get it in then?

djj6835 · #2 09-28-2007, 03:39 PM

This is fine. A turn bet is almost guaranteed following a flop check raise even with a draw, expecially from someone with stats like this.

James. · #3 09-28-2007, 03:57 PM

when you only call the flop checkraise he's betting that turn 98.32689% of the time with a good draw(or most anyting he c/r the flop with anyway).

Alobar · #4 09-28-2007, 05:19 PM

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when you only call the flop checkraise he's betting that turn 98.32689% of the time with a good draw(or most anyting he c/r the flop with anyway).

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what about the flop? Should I be 3 betting here?

James. · #5 09-30-2007, 12:16 AM

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when you only call the flop checkraise he's betting that turn 98.32689% of the time with a good draw(or most anyting he c/r the flop with anyway).

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what about the flop? Should I be 3 betting here?

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honestly, i likely would have.

bboy_ · #6 10-04-2007, 02:41 AM

flop/turn line dont make sense. are you slowplaying your aces on that flop? ez flop shove, protect against draws, occaisionally called by worse hands thinkin ur on a draw

private joker · #7 10-04-2007, 06:24 AM

Clearly you should fold to his turn 3-bet; save the $1.70.

*TT* · #8 10-05-2007, 11:09 PM

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when you only call the flop checkraise he's betting that turn 98.32689% of the time with a good draw(or most anyting he c/r the flop with anyway).

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what about the flop? Should I be 3 betting here?

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honestly, i likely would have.

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I am not an experienced enough NL player, but this looks like a near-push on the flop to me. Perhaps re-raise enough to leave him $25 behind if he calls.

DeathDonkey · #9 10-06-2007, 02:48 AM

You guys are crazy, this is a turn fold to his bet out I think and its gotta be close to a fold to his flop CR. If he is a competent LAG TAG 2+2er he isn't checkraising this flop with one pair, once you call his big flop CR he isn't expecting you to fold the turn.

-DeathDonkey

Alobar · #10 10-06-2007, 04:10 AM

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You guys are crazy, this is a turn fold to his bet out I think and its gotta be close to a fold to his flop CR. If he is a competent LAG TAG 2+2er he isn't checkraising this flop with one pair, once you call his big flop CR he isn't expecting you to fold the turn.

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DD,

So you don't think hes check raising the flop here with a draw ever?