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Old 10-02-2007, 09:33 PM
juggernaut juggernaut is offline
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Default How often are you betting this flop?

Action is 4-handed here. Villian is straightforward, multi-tabling TAG with an attempt to steal around 30%. We have no history playing big pots.

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($419.40)
Button ($200.00)
SB ($227.90)
Hero ($200.00)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $7, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $32</font>, UTG calls $24, SB folds.

Flop: ($72) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero .....
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: How often are you betting this flop?

Maybe bet 70%
C/R 20% to keep others honest/for deception
C/F 10% against certain opponents

Not totally sure tho, I think I may struggle in spots like this as well. Would like to hear some others chime in.
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: How often are you betting this flop?

Villain is peeling a [censored] load here, so I'm not betting unless I feel like firing another barrel. Of course that decision depends a lot on my image and villain's ability to fold.

Oh and I hate hate hate C/R AI here. Sure we have decent equity against a lot of middlish pairs, but they just about never end up folding after betting this flop.
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: How often are you betting this flop?

I don't 3-bet preflop... if you're wondering why its because I've never had to make a thread like this [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Call me a nit but I hate creating a big pot OOP
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:46 PM
Hosehound25 Hosehound25 is offline
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Default Re: How often are you betting this flop?

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Villain is peeling a [censored] load here, so I'm not betting unless I feel like firing another barrel. Of course that decision depends a lot on my image and villain's ability to fold.

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This is what I was thinking, just not good at putting percentages to them. So yeah percentage is really dependent on whether villain peels/can fold to 2nd barrel etc. I think
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: How often are you betting this flop?

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I don't 3-bet preflop... if you're wondering why its because I've never had to make a thread like this [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Call me a nit but I hate creating a big pot OOP

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Nit [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Seriously though...3-betting is completely fine (good) given that it's 4-handed.
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: How often are you betting this flop?

[ QUOTE ]
I don't 3-bet preflop... if you're wondering why its because I've never had to make a thread like this [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Call me a nit but I hate creating a big pot OOP

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yeah, i'm a nit too, but given that it's 4-handed, i think i'm way ahead of villian's stealing range.
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: How often are you betting this flop?

oi... didn't notice it was 4 handed. Standard.

UTG play between 4 and 5-6 handed are worlds apart IMO as UTG pretty much plays as the CO in 4 handed.
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: How often are you betting this flop?

Given villain and the fact that we're 4-handed, I'm gonna go ahead and say NOT 3-betting here is probably a leak.

Anyway, agree with whoever said villain's peeling basically his whole range here. I still fire both barrels a fair amount though if I have a good image. That said, c/f wouldn't necessarily be the worst thing ever.
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: How often are you betting this flop?

I push this flop and vomit when he flips over the flush/quads.
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