line check with loose players

jmitchell42 · #1 11-09-2007, 03:16 AM

villian is 67/75/0 after only 12 so not much help. table seems pretty loose passive though. not much more than that unfortunately.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero betsbets for value. checkraise? or keep as is., CO raises, BB folds, Hero calls. 3bet or call?

Turn: (5.20 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, ? CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls. went to call down mode. just uneasy about how it went so far.

Final Pot: 9.20 BB

tyler_cracker · #2 11-09-2007, 03:18 AM

who would you be planning to c/r on the flop exactly?

3bet the flop so that you don't give a free card to A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]x and so that you don't get owned on a big street by a flopped flush.

BadBigBabar · #3 11-09-2007, 03:42 AM

3bet flop and keep betting

MoonOrb · #4 11-09-2007, 03:44 AM

I would have played it the same way except I think you can 3bet him on the flop. It's unlikely he's holding 2 hearts so it's for value.

I don't understand the c/r, really. I think the risk that he checks it through is too great.

If he caps flop I c/c the rest of the way and bail on a 4th heart. If he doesn't, I'm leading the turn.

bellatrix · #5 11-09-2007, 03:46 AM

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So he entered 8 pots, but he raised 9, so that means he 3-bet at least 1. Is that correct? So pre-flop, we already have a pretty good characterization of this guy -> maniac.

3-bet the flop for Value. This is way more likely a pair + FD than flopped flush. In fact, many players at these limits would sloooowplay a flopped flush. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

maverickai · #6 11-09-2007, 05:59 AM

hmm grunching... I would play like what you did.

maverickai · #7 11-09-2007, 06:00 AM

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3bet the flop so that you don't give a free card to A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]x and so that you don't get owned on a big street by a flopped flush.

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tyler, what do you mean by "not getting owned on a big street by a flopped flush?"

JJack · #8 11-09-2007, 06:39 AM

flop bet/3bet
lead next streets

kav · #9 11-09-2007, 08:55 AM

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villian is 67/75/0 after only 12

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So he entered 8 pots, but he raised 9, so that means he 3-bet at least 1. Is that correct? So pre-flop, we already have a pretty good characterization of this guy -> maniac.

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I might be wrong but AFAIK he entered 8 (67% of 12) pots of which he raised 6 (75% of 8).

if i'm wrong its coz I need to sleep
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Sushiglutton · #10 11-09-2007, 08:57 AM

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That 0 could mean he has never called as well as never bet/raised. Considering pf I think the former is correct. Anyway small sapmle. I 3-bet the flop.