STTF SNG->cash thread

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($114.65)
Button ($65)
Hero ($47.25)
BB ($50)
UTG ($110.15)
MP ($73.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $6</font>, Button folds,hero?

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Meh, with 4 to the flop checking isn't that bad. Betting folds everyone a lot of the time, but not building a pot isn't great and neither is a free card. It's part of why being OOP is worst than being IP.

I'm not too afraid of being beaten. I think I like calling the turn and check-raising a non-spade river. You risk missing out if he doesn't value bet a K on the river, but I think you get the most value out of his one pair hands this way as long as giving him another chance to bluff if he has nothing.

[futuredoc85]

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($114.65)
Button ($65)
Hero ($47.25)
BB ($50)
UTG ($110.15)
MP ($73.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $6</font>, Button folds,hero?

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Meh, with 4 to the flop checking isn't that bad. Betting folds everyone a lot of the time, but not building a pot isn't great and neither is a free card. It's part of why being OOP is worst than being IP.

I'm not too afraid of being beaten. I think I like calling the turn and check-raising a non-spade river. You risk missing out if he doesn't value bet a K on the river, but I think you get the most value out of his one pair hands this way as long as giving him another chance to bluff if he has nothing.

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flop is a must-bet IMO, esp at 50NL you think anyone is folding a FD or KX here?

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($103.55)
BB ($113.15)
UTG ($96)
MP ($58.05)
Hero ($106.85)
Button ($222.70)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, UTG calls $8.

Turn: ($27.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $65</font>, Hero ?

villain is 17/9/1

anyone think about checking the turn ?

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[futuredoc85]

sure you can check it if your psychic powers tell you he's c/r. bet plz.

[cakewalk]

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sure you can check it if your psychic powers tell you he's c/r. bet plz.

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bet/fold ?

whoever said check the flop, i don't think our hand is strong enough to be checking, so we need to bet for protection/and small value

[futuredoc85]

flop check is OK if a) villain is aggro enough to stab w/ worse hands once we show weakness, or b) villain is more likely to call w/ worse after we check the flop

[cakewalk]

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flop check is OK if a) villain is aggro enough to stab w/ worse hands once we show weakness, or b) villain is more likely to call w/ worse after we check the flop

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that seems pretty rare to be coming from an unknown at NL100 ?

[GtrHtr]

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nevertheless, should i reraise the turn?

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I really like microbets line on the turn and river. I usually don't agree with him because so much of his experience/br comes from being a luckbox. Here tho for once I like what he says. <font color="white"> got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got yougot you got you got you got yougot you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you why do I suddenly feel like suzzer? oh well, got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got yougot you got you got you got yougot you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you </font>

[microbet]

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($114.65)
Button ($65)
Hero ($47.25)
BB ($50)
UTG ($110.15)
MP ($73.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $6</font>, Button folds,hero?

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Meh, with 4 to the flop checking isn't that bad. Betting folds everyone a lot of the time, but not building a pot isn't great and neither is a free card. It's part of why being OOP is worst than being IP.

I'm not too afraid of being beaten. I think I like calling the turn and check-raising a non-spade river. You risk missing out if he doesn't value bet a K on the river, but I think you get the most value out of his one pair hands this way as long as giving him another chance to bluff if he has nothing.

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flop is a must-bet IMO, esp at 50NL you think anyone is folding a FD or KX here?

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No, but they bet those hands a lot anyway and they fold when they don't have that. Sometimes nice things happen like BB bets, MP and Button call and you can get into a really big pot with flush draw and a king or two.

Anyway, I think you're right and I always bet when there's a flop like this because something like AK is so likely to get stacked. I just don't think on the whole checking cost that much.

[futuredoc85]

ya but there are lots of bad turn cards and 4 good ones