FR Theory - stack sizes and how you should modify to them

[Webster]

Issues - You say that a person should play with 100BB for best results - yet you also say that 100BB "allows good LAGS to really play hard at a table, winning lots of small pots . . . . . ."

But most people HERE are coming from limit and are TAGs. are you saying limit players that are ingrained TAGS should become LAGS?

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Deceptive play becomes much more profitable here

[/ QUOTE ] Again - most limit players are not into deception, at least NL style deception.

Granted - I have seen LAGs and what they can do to a table and how it effects MY play but they are beaten by good cards.

SO - at what level should new players start at. 20BB and play basically a Limit style game or 100BB, live and learn LAG style game pushing people off for small victories and waiting for the spec hands to hit.

I assume you need some guide for folding along with betting if you are playing 100BB.

[akak]

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SO - at what level should new players start at.

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It's totally up to you. Play what style you feel more comfortable at. You won't be at a tactical disadvantage for reasons you stated earlier.

Disclaimer: if you intend on playing NL for a long time, eventually you will probably desire to buyin with the maximum amount (usually 100bb) every time you play. This is because buying in full allows you to maximize your profits against weaker opponents. If you're going to be buying in full most of the time over the course of your career, it would follow that you should get as much practice playing with a full stack as you can. That's why most people here recommend buying in with a full stack.

[diebitter]

Webster

it's pretty easy to put up with lags. Eitehr move tables or tighten up in pots they are in, and wait for the big cards to get them. If you don't see the lag putting in big money without something, they're a good lag, so best avoided altogether for playing against. Great to study though.


Also TAG play at 100BB remains steadily profitable, so it's by no means bad, it's just never going to be as profitable as a good lag gets.

In addition, once you've established a good tag image, you can play back at the lags and take all their small ball play and fire it back at them and extract more from them than they're extracting from you (whilst they continue to show profit, cos they're extracting from the rest of the table). But that's for when you have more experience.