Weak leads (way too late pooh-bah?) tl;dr

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Hand 1: call. you can always call a 2nd barrel or fold to a turn bet. I don't think you're folding a queen to often.

Hand 2: you have the nuts here. Why are you trying to get him to fold. call the flop and raise the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]1. I don't want to call a turn bet and be a station with second pair or bluff(??) raise the turn with a showdownable hand. Once people lead into a raise they do not tend to stop betting. I prefer to win before showdown because I'm stealing a lot of small pots in general. I realize this is opposite of most microstakes players, just the style I prefer. I'm not raising here for a cheap showdown, it's for value. I think my hand is better than his range that leads (I realize his CALLING range probably has me in bad shape) but I don't mind a call and re-evaluating later streets. And I want initiative. If I were stronger, calling is still bad because I want value.

2. Because I raise a lot of garbage I raise a lot of good hands too, since these are more likely to be shown down it helps image. Also, shortstacks rarely lead and fold with anything except air. I miss value by raising if they have air, but whatever.