KK on a broadway flop

Kyriefurro · #1 12-19-2006, 01:50 PM

Villain is a complete unknown. I've only played 4 hands on the table so far, and this is the first time I've seen him.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($86)
MP ($30.25)
CO ($59.30)
Button ($23.35)
Hero ($55.45)
BB ($49.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, 1 fold, Button calls $0.50, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, UTG calls $3.50, MP folds, Button calls $3.50.

Flop: ($13) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero....?

I almost couldn't ask for a worse flop. What's my line, and why?

Also, assume the turn bricks...what's my turn line if I'm still in the hand?

danny8 · #2 12-19-2006, 01:53 PM

this flop is awfull.. i think i c/f [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] its a crappy spot but the RIOs if you are ahead suck.

If it checks through id still prolly c/f on a blank turn unless it was a small bet.

Sir Winalot · #3 12-19-2006, 01:53 PM

C/f, they're not folding any better hands and this board hit hard many of their possible holdings.

luckychewy · #4 12-19-2006, 01:53 PM

check it see what happens.

Check_The_Nuts · #5 12-19-2006, 01:54 PM

yeah i check fold. You can't double barrell and check/calling is insanity.

Slava_sky · #6 12-19-2006, 01:55 PM

Imagine, as you have AK and play it that way.

Chaserjim · #7 12-19-2006, 01:55 PM

Check it , try and get a free card .. if not , let it go.

Quester · #8 12-19-2006, 01:58 PM

I c-bet it for maybe 1/2 pot. I'll lead for $7. The flop is just as scary to them as it is to you, since they have to consider being way behind to AA.

Kyriefurro · #9 12-19-2006, 02:05 PM

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Imagine, as you have AK and play it that way.

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What sage advice! Completely meaningless, but is sure does sound impressive. AK is in just as tough a spot as KK here, and doesn't play any differently.

Kyriefurro · #10 12-19-2006, 02:10 PM

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The flop is just as scary to them as it is to you, since they have to consider being way behind to AA.

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I disagree. My 8xBB PFR is scary as hell to most NL50 players. They're only calling with "strong" hands - aka. broadway cards. This flop hit them in the face. Most likely their looking at 2-pair or a set. And the average NL50 who has 2-pair or a set isn't even going to stop to wonder if maybe I have AA.

Check/folding seemed so weak last night, but in the light of day it's obviously the best play. I just needed some positive reinforcement. Please, someone tell me I did a good job and pat me on the head [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].