Call? Cap? Value bet?

[pokerjunky]

Hand 1: I bet turn and probably fold to a raise. People call the flop with all kinds of junk.

Hand 2: Why is everyone disgusted with the flop play?

Hand 3: Check call

[Stealthy]

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Hand 2: Why is everyone disgusted with the flop play?



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Because the pot is large and I have the likely best hand and should be getting as many bets in as possible.

In the 44 hand BB did indeed have a flush and UTG had a terribly played AQo.

[kleath]

How on earth is capping turn and river spew in hand 2? I mean this is 2/4 and we're going to put him on AA/88/A8?

[milesdyson]

he limp capped preflop and never let up with an ace and two eights on the board. ??

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[kleath]

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he limp capped preflop and never let up with an ace and two eights on the board. ??

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All he needs is like AQ+ added in his range(not that hard for 2/4) and you'd be missing value not capping.

[maka2184]

Hand two obviously raise flop and preflop play is questionable but are some of you seriously saying this is a no brainer call and theres no merit to cap river here?

BB has been calling down whole way so theres a very high chance that he has a flush. UTG has limp capped and been betting whole way down and then "SLOWED" down when the BB 3 bet the river when the hearts came.

Assuming BB didn't slow play a huge hand theres no way UTG isn't capping A8 AA or 88 on that river right? Like UTG played his hand really weird but this is 2/4 and he most likely has AK if he's not capping river there no?

You guys might say there is no way BB is raising with a flush here but because of the poor flop play he might be just putting us on an 8. Because it sure looks like it the way OP played the hand.

[Hobbs.]

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bb has a flush and utg doesn't have top full so cap that shiet

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Level?

Flop play is terrible. And by terrible I mean worse than folding AA preflop.

After he 3-bets the turn you loose. Putting in 4 bets on both turn and river would be unbelievable spew. I call down from turn 3-bet.

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am I getting leveled here? are we both looking at hand 2?

[Oink]

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bb has a flush and utg doesn't have top full so cap that shiet

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Level?

Flop play is terrible. And by terrible I mean worse than folding AA preflop.

After he 3-bets the turn you loose. Putting in 4 bets on both turn and river would be unbelievable spew. I call down from turn 3-bet.

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am I getting leveled here? are we both looking at hand 2?

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I am looking at hand 2 in which hero has flopped a set on the A84fd flop multiway. Slowplaying this one is terrible!

EDIT: So claiming its worse than folding AA preflop is an overstatement, but its up there.

You have a flopped set in a big multiway pot. You wanna jam this one because you want as many bets in as possible and because you want to get as many folds as possible. Getting someone to fold 65, 75 and 76 is worth a little more than 3 SB when Hero has the best hand.

I am sorry. But IMO its so unbelieveably terrible to slowplay this flop. Just jam you set man!

BTW. If I just call this flop it would be with the intention of calling down if I had a good read on UTG having AA almost always

[gehrig]

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"Miles do you call hand 1 on river if it is non broadway?"

i'd probably call since you said the last two times he 3-bet you from the small blind you folded easily postflop

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v confident that if u work it out betting turn is better than checking and calling a river bet

[Hobbs.]

oink, the flop is terrible. I was just talking about the river and that once utg calls bb's raise we need to cap because that rules out AA.