Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600

[Ansky]

I think there are moments when I have actually played better when stuck. Often when I am deep into a hu match and I am up a lot, I can get complacent. When I am stuck I really feel the pressure, and I always play a ton better under pressure.

Still, I obviously sometimes tilt too, and in such cases i try to stop myself.

[GaryTheGoat]

tc:
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I'd be interested to see what Phil G's take is on this discussion/phenomenon.

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Jman (Phil G.?):
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Stop loss strategy's are only good if you play worse when losing. There's no other benefit to them EV-wise.

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gg:
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Aren't they also good if your opponents play better when you are losing?

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Edit:
Jman:
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I do however, think it's mostly a matter of whether you play worse (or your opponent plays better).

I do think stop losses are very important against great players because I think almost everyone plays worse stuck and better when winning, whether they know it or not.

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Thanks for clarification.
gg

[Setcho]

Jman28,

This is great stuff. I really miss you att CR. Could you please tell us what you think about TC's and DLizzles posts?
I really enjoy your writing and as a HU player I think they were pretty much spot on regarding the dynamics of starting of HU being stuck a couple of buyins. Do you really think this can be overcome?

Tack!

[Jman28]

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Jman, would you mind going into more detail on just exactly Ivey's leaks are against strong players?

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I would rather not. I don't think he reads 2+2, but if he does and I don't know it, that would be super -ev for me.

Here's every hand that I won or lost >$10k in (I'm gonna x-post this on my blog and try to answer questions there too):

FullTiltPoker Game #3695585928: Table Halbert (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:06:22 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($77,397.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($145,478.50)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $300
OMGClayAiken posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [9c 7c]
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey raises to $1,800
OMGClayAiken raises to $6,600
Phil Ivey calls $4,800
*** FLOP *** [9d 7d Ad]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey bets $10,800
OMGClayAiken calls $10,800
*** TURN *** [9d 7d Ad] [Tc]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey bets $27,600
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken has requested TIME
OMGClayAiken raises to $59,997.50, and is all in
Phil Ivey calls $32,397.50
OMGClayAiken shows [9c 7c]
Phil Ivey shows [8h Jh]
*** RIVER *** [9d 7d Ad Tc] [Qh]
OMGClayAiken shows two pair, Nines and Sevens
Phil Ivey shows a straight, Queen high
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($154,794.50) with a straight, Queen high
OMGClayAiken is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $154,795 | Rake $0.50
Board: [9d 7d Ad Tc Qh]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (big blind) showed [9c 7c] and lost with two pair, Nines and Sevens
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (small blind) showed [8h Jh] and won ($154,794.50) with a straight, Queen high

FullTiltPoker Game #3695334747: Table Halbert (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:05:15 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($60,000)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($60,000)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $300
OMGClayAiken posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [7s 8s]
Phil Ivey raises to $1,800
OMGClayAiken calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [Ks Jc 7h]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey bets $2,400
OMGClayAiken calls $2,400
*** TURN *** [Ks Jc 7h] [Jh]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey bets $6,600
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken calls $6,600
*** RIVER *** [Ks Jc 7h Jh] [3h]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey bets $18,600
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken has requested TIME
OMGClayAiken calls $18,600
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Phil Ivey shows [8d 5d] a pair of Jacks
OMGClayAiken shows [7s 8s] two pair, Jacks and Sevens
OMGClayAiken wins the pot ($58,799.50) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $58,800 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Ks Jc 7h Jh 3h]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (big blind) showed [7s 8s] and won ($58,799.50) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (small blind) showed [8d 5d] and lost with a pair of Jacks



FullTiltPoker Game #3695414702: Table Halbert (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:26:00 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($88,796.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($35,994.50)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $300
OMGClayAiken posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [As 4s]
Phil Ivey raises to $1,800
OMGClayAiken calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [2s 9d 4h]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey bets $2,400
OMGClayAiken calls $2,400
*** TURN *** [2s 9d 4h] [6d]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey bets $7,200
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken calls $7,200
*** RIVER *** [2s 9d 4h 6d] [7s]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey bets $24,594.50, and is all in
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken has requested TIME
OMGClayAiken calls $24,594.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Phil Ivey shows [Qd Qs] a pair of Queens
OMGClayAiken mucks
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($71,988.50) with a pair of Queens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $71,989 | Rake $0.50
Board: [2s 9d 4h 6d 7s]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (big blind) mucked [As 4s] - a pair of Fours
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (small blind) showed [Qd Qs] and won ($71,988.50) with a pair of Queens

OMGClayAiken posts the small blind of $300
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [5s 5h]
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,800
Phil Ivey calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [6d 5d 3h]
Phil Ivey checks
OMGClayAiken bets $3,000
Phil Ivey calls $3,000
*** TURN *** [6d 5d 3h] [8c]
Phil Ivey bets $7,200
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken raises to $18,000
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey calls $10,800
*** RIVER *** [6d 5d 3h 8c] [Tc]
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey checks
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken bets $45,600
Phil Ivey folds
Uncalled bet of $45,600 returned to OMGClayAiken
OMGClayAiken mucks
OMGClayAiken wins the pot ($45,599.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $45,600 | Rake $0.50
Board: [6d 5d 3h 8c Tc]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (small blind) collected ($45,599.50), mucked
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (big blind) folded on the River

FullTiltPoker Game #3695441893: Table Halbert (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:32:48 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($61,199.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($76,187.50)
OMGClayAiken posts the small blind of $300
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [7h Ah]
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,800
Phil Ivey calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [2h As Qd]
Phil Ivey checks
OMGClayAiken bets $3,000
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey calls $3,000
*** TURN *** [2h As Qd] [3c]
Phil Ivey checks
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken bets $7,800
Phil Ivey calls $7,800
*** RIVER *** [2h As Qd 3c] [3s]
Phil Ivey checks
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
OMGClayAiken shows [7h Ah] two pair, Aces and Threes
Phil Ivey mucks
OMGClayAiken wins the pot ($25,199.50) with two pair, Aces and Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $25,200 | Rake $0.50
Board: [2h As Qd 3c 3s]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (small blind) showed [7h Ah] and won ($25,199.50) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (big blind) mucked [4h Qs] - two pair, Queens and Threes

FullTiltPoker Game #3695380385: Table Halbert (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:17:16 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($61,198.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($63,596)
OMGClayAiken posts the small blind of $300
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [As 6h]
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,800
Phil Ivey calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [Kh 5h 7c]
Phil Ivey checks
OMGClayAiken checks
*** TURN *** [Kh 5h 7c] [4s]
Phil Ivey bets $3,000
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken raises to $9,000
Phil Ivey calls $6,000
*** RIVER *** [Kh 5h 7c 4s] [9d]
Phil Ivey checks
OMGClayAiken bets $18,600
Phil Ivey folds
Uncalled bet of $18,600 returned to OMGClayAiken
OMGClayAiken mucks
OMGClayAiken wins the pot ($21,599.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21,600 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Kh 5h 7c 4s 9d]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (small blind) collected ($21,599.50), mucked
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (big blind) folded on the River

FullTiltPoker Game #3695554041: Table Halbert (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:59:06 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($59,099.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($103,780.50)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $300
OMGClayAiken posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [Qs 8s]
Phil Ivey raises to $1,800
OMGClayAiken raises to $6,600
Phil Ivey calls $4,800
*** FLOP *** [2s 4d Ts]
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken bets $9,000
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey raises to $25,800
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken has requested TIME
OMGClayAiken raises to $52,499.50, and is all in
Phil Ivey calls $26,699.50
OMGClayAiken shows [Qs 8s]
Phil Ivey shows [Tc Qc]
*** TURN *** [2s 4d Ts] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [2s 4d Ts Td] [Th]
OMGClayAiken shows three of a kind, Tens
Phil Ivey shows four of a kind, Tens
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($118,198.50) with four of a kind, Tens
OMGClayAiken is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $118,199 | Rake $0.50
Board: [2s 4d Ts Td Th]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (big blind) showed [Qs 8s] and lost with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (small blind) showed [Tc Qc] and won ($118,198.50) with four of a kind, Tens


FullTiltPoker Game #3695359278: Table Halbert (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:11:44 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($87,898.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($32,098.50)
OMGClayAiken posts the small blind of $300
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [Th As]
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,800
Phil Ivey calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [Td 6h 6c]
Phil Ivey checks
OMGClayAiken bets $3,000
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey raises to $9,600
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken calls $6,600
*** TURN *** [Td 6h 6c] [8c]
Phil Ivey bets $20,698.50, and is all in
OMGClayAiken calls $20,698.50
Phil Ivey shows [7c 6s]
OMGClayAiken shows [Th As]
*** RIVER *** [Td 6h 6c 8c] [9s]
Phil Ivey shows a straight, Ten high
OMGClayAiken shows two pair, Tens and Sixes
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($64,196.50) with a straight, Ten high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $64,197 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Td 6h 6c 8c 9s]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (small blind) showed [Th As] and lost with two pair, Tens and Sixes
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (big blind) showed [7c 6s] and won ($64,196.50) with a straight, Ten high

FullTiltPoker Game #3695491624: Table Halbert (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:44:57 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($68,099)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($72,585.50)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $300
OMGClayAiken posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [xx] ***sorry, I don't want opponents to know what I had here***
Phil Ivey raises to $1,800
OMGClayAiken raises to $6,600
Phil Ivey calls $4,800
*** FLOP *** [Qd 3c 9d]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey bets $10,800
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken calls $10,800
*** TURN *** [Qd 3c 9d] [6h]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey bets $24,600
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken has requested TIME
OMGClayAiken folds
Uncalled bet of $24,600 returned to Phil Ivey
Phil Ivey mucks
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($34,799.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $34,800 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Qd 3c 9d 6h]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (small blind) collected ($34,799.50), mucked

FullTiltPoker Game #3695576483: Table Journey (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:04:14 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($141,575)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($39,896.50)
OMGClayAiken posts the small blind of $300
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [6c As]
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,800
Phil Ivey calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [5d 9d 6s]
Phil Ivey checks
OMGClayAiken bets $3,000
Phil Ivey raises to $9,600
OMGClayAiken calls $6,600
*** TURN *** [5d 9d 6s] [7d]
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey bets $28,496.50, and is all in
OMGClayAiken folds
Uncalled bet of $28,496.50 returned to Phil Ivey
Phil Ivey mucks
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($22,799.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $22,800 | Rake $0.50
Board: [5d 9d 6s 7d]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (big blind) collected ($22,799.50), mucked

FullTiltPoker Game #3695406840: Table Journey (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:24:03 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($70,495.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($50,995)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $300
OMGClayAiken posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [9s Ts]
Phil Ivey raises to $1,800
OMGClayAiken raises to $6,600
Phil Ivey calls $4,800
*** FLOP *** [Jh 3h As]
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken bets $9,200
Phil Ivey calls $9,200
*** TURN *** [Jh 3h As] [6s]
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken bets $54,695.50, and is all in
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey folds
Uncalled bet of $54,695.50 returned to OMGClayAiken
OMGClayAiken mucks
OMGClayAiken wins the pot ($31,599.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $31,600 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Jh 3h As 6s]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (big blind) collected ($31,599.50), mucked
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (small blind) folded on the Turn

FullTiltPoker Game #3695444434: Table Journey (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:33:26 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($64,394)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($57,092.50)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $300
OMGClayAiken posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [Th 9h]
Phil Ivey raises to $1,800
OMGClayAiken raises to $6,600
Phil Ivey calls $4,800
*** FLOP *** [Jd Qc 3h]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey checks
*** TURN *** [Jd Qc 3h] [7c]
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken bets $7,500
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey calls $7,500
*** RIVER *** [Jd Qc 3h 7c] [4d]
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken has requested TIME
OMGClayAiken bets $21,600
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey folds
Uncalled bet of $21,600 returned to OMGClayAiken
OMGClayAiken mucks
OMGClayAiken wins the pot ($28,199.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $28,200 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Jd Qc 3h 7c 4d]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (big blind) collected ($28,199.50), mucked
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (small blind) folded on the River

FullTiltPoker Game #3695519113: Table Journey (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:51:13 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($114,578.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($66,899.50)
OMGClayAiken posts the small blind of $300
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [7d 8d]
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,800
Phil Ivey raises to $5,400
OMGClayAiken calls $3,600
*** FLOP *** [Ah 2d Ad]
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey bets $7,200
OMGClayAiken calls $7,200
*** TURN *** [Ah 2d Ad] [9h]
Phil Ivey checks
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken bets $11,000
Phil Ivey folds
Uncalled bet of $11,000 returned to OMGClayAiken
OMGClayAiken mucks
OMGClayAiken wins the pot ($25,199.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $25,200 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Ah 2d Ad 9h]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (small blind) collected ($25,199.50), mucked
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (big blind) folded on the Turn

FullTiltPoker Game #3695452638: Table Journey (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:35:28 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($78,193.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($43,292)
OMGClayAiken posts the small blind of $300
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [3s 3c]
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,800
Phil Ivey raises to $5,400
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken calls $3,600
*** FLOP *** [8s 3h 5d]
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey bets $7,200
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken calls $7,200
*** TURN *** [8s 3h 5d] [Ts]
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey checks
OMGClayAiken checks
*** RIVER *** [8s 3h 5d Ts] [4c]
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey checks
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken bets $18,000
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey folds
Uncalled bet of $18,000 returned to OMGClayAiken
OMGClayAiken mucks
OMGClayAiken wins the pot ($25,199.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $25,200 | Rake $0.50
Board: [8s 3h 5d Ts 4c]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (small blind) collected ($25,199.50), mucked
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (big blind) folded on the River

FullTiltPoker Game #3695526061: Table Journey (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:52:47 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($126,278)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($55,199.50)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $300
OMGClayAiken posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [xx] *** again, I don't want opponents to know my exact cards. This was a bluff though. I promise.
Phil Ivey raises to $1,800
OMGClayAiken calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [6c Qs 9h]
OMGClayAiken bets $3,000
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey raises to $10,800
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken raises to $21,000
Phil Ivey folds
Uncalled bet of $10,200 returned to OMGClayAiken
OMGClayAiken mucks
OMGClayAiken wins the pot ($25,199.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $25,200 | Rake $0.50
Board: [6c Qs 9h]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (big blind) collected ($25,199.50), mucked
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (small blind) folded on the Flop

FullTiltPoker Game #3695529957: Table Journey (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:53:39 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($138,877.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($42,599.50)
OMGClayAiken posts the small blind of $300
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [Jc Th]
OMGClayAiken calls $300
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey raises to $1,800
OMGClayAiken calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [8s 4d Ts]
Phil Ivey bets $2,400
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken calls $2,400
*** TURN *** [8s 4d Ts] [Qc]
Phil Ivey checks
OMGClayAiken checks
*** RIVER *** [8s 4d Ts Qc] [Jd]
Phil Ivey bets $7,200
OMGClayAiken calls $7,200
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Phil Ivey shows [6s Ah] Ace Queen high
OMGClayAiken shows [Jc Th] two pair, Jacks and Tens
OMGClayAiken wins the pot ($22,799.50) with two pair, Jacks and Tens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $22,800 | Rake $0.50
Board: [8s 4d Ts Qc Jd]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (small blind) showed [Jc Th] and won ($22,799.50) with two pair, Jacks and Tens
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (big blind) showed [6s Ah] and lost with Ace Queen high

FullTiltPoker Game #3695529957: Table Journey (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:53:39 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($138,877.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($42,599.50)
OMGClayAiken posts the small blind of $300
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [Jc Th]
OMGClayAiken calls $300
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey raises to $1,800
OMGClayAiken calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [8s 4d Ts]
Phil Ivey bets $2,400
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken calls $2,400
*** TURN *** [8s 4d Ts] [Qc]
Phil Ivey checks
OMGClayAiken checks
*** RIVER *** [8s 4d Ts Qc] [Jd]
Phil Ivey bets $7,200
OMGClayAiken calls $7,200
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Phil Ivey shows [6s Ah] Ace Queen high
OMGClayAiken shows [Jc Th] two pair, Jacks and Tens
OMGClayAiken wins the pot ($22,799.50) with two pair, Jacks and Tens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $22,800 | Rake $0.50
Board: [8s 4d Ts Qc Jd]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (small blind) showed [Jc Th] and won ($22,799.50) with two pair, Jacks and Tens
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (big blind) showed [6s Ah] and lost with Ace Queen high

FullTiltPoker Game #3695509729: Table Journey (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:49:06 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($110,889.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($10,589.50)
OMGClayAiken posts the small blind of $300
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [Kd Ks]
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,400
Phil Ivey raises to $4,200
OMGClayAiken raises to $12,600
Phil Ivey calls $6,389.50, and is all in
OMGClayAiken shows [Kd Ks]
Phil Ivey shows [Ts Ad]
Uncalled bet of $2,010.50 returned to OMGClayAiken
*** FLOP *** [2h 8s 4h]
*** TURN *** [2h 8s 4h] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [2h 8s 4h 9h] [5c]
OMGClayAiken shows a pair of Kings
Phil Ivey shows Ace Ten high
OMGClayAiken wins the pot ($21,178.50) with a pair of Kings
Phil Ivey is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21,179 | Rake $0.50
Board: [2h 8s 4h 9h 5c]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (small blind) showed [Kd Ks] and won ($21,178.50) with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (big blind) showed [Ts Ad] and lost with Ace Ten high

FullTiltPoker Game #3695496804: Table Journey (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:46:09 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($91,391)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($30,089.50)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $300
OMGClayAiken posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OMGClayAiken [Ah 9s]
Phil Ivey raises to $1,800
OMGClayAiken calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [5d 9c Th]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey bets $2,400
OMGClayAiken calls $2,400
*** TURN *** [5d 9c Th] [Kh]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey checks
*** RIVER *** [5d 9c Th Kh] [4c]
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken bets $6,000
Phil Ivey calls $6,000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
OMGClayAiken shows [Ah 9s] a pair of Nines
Phil Ivey mucks
OMGClayAiken wins the pot ($20,399.50) with a pair of Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $20,400 | Rake $0.50
Board: [5d 9c Th Kh 4c]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (big blind) showed [Ah 9s] and won ($20,399.50) with a pair of Nines
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (small blind) mucked [Qc 9h] - a pair of Nines

[PartyGirlUK]

Phil, thanks for doing this.

I'd be interested in hearing your thought processes behind the two big call downs. Is that the type of situation where you realise that game theory wise you need to be calling x% of the time, and try to randomise it, or were there specific reasons why you chose this hand/board rather than the bunch of times in the session when you folded in similar circumstances.

[mrTEA]

Very cool of you to post these. Thanks

[JEFF or DAD]

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jesus christ just when i thought ppl couldnt get more stupid

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Judging by your past posts, which seem to consist largely of one-line post equivalents of grunts, you're not exactly Einstein yourself. And if you want to compare graduate degrees, I'd be more than happy to do so, sport.



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I'm having fun imagining you typing this.

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ahahaha me too

[NLSoldier]

jman, thx for posting all of those. good stuff. care to give thoughts on your river check when you had A7 on AQ233r board? seems like you need to bet this since you will often have air here and sometimes have AK or better, both of which i would think you are betting most of the time?

i guess stack sizes were a little awkward since it would have put you in a nasty spot if you bet small and he CRs and you were deep to just shove yourself?

[Jman28]

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Phil, thanks for doing this.

I'd be interested in hearing your thought processes behind the two big call downs. Is that the type of situation where you realise that game theory wise you need to be calling x% of the time, and try to randomise it, or were there specific reasons why you chose this hand/board rather than the bunch of times in the session when you folded in similar circumstances.

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You're welcome. I heart 2+2.

The calldowns were not based on game theory randomization. I don't want to talk about reads on Ivey, but he basically doesn't balance his range well in certain situations, as is evident by what he had when I called down with 87.

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jman, thx for posting all of those. good stuff. care to give thoughts on your river check when you had A7 on AQ233r board? seems like you need to bet this since you will often have air here and sometimes have AK or better, both of which i would think you are betting most of the time?

i guess stack sizes were a little awkward since it would have put you in a nasty spot if you bet small and he CRs and you were deep to just shove yourself?

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I don't think he can call with worse very often. I shouldn't be bluffing that river much as any ace has to call since it chops usually. I had a very strong feeling based on some things (sorry to be vague) that a hand like 43s/53s was a decent chunk of his range. I wasn't too far off, as he had the pair+gutter.

Going out with friends. I'll try to get back to you guys tomorrow.

[thatpfunk]

wow jmans awesome. swooooooooon.