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Old 12-08-2006, 02:29 AM
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Default $50NL FD OOP, This didn\'t feel right

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The stack size giving me problem here I think. Just confused.

Edit: I guess a better question would be, how deep do we have to be to make this call? a push?

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $92.55
UTG+1: $106.10
CO: $20
Button: $35.80
Hero: $51.35
BB: $50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $1</font>, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2.5</font>, BB calls, CO calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($10.5, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $10.5</font>, Hero folds, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: $10.5 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $10.5
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: $50NL FD OOP, This didn\'t feel right

looks good to me. sometimes i double barrel as a blocker to see a cheap river because most villains will bet when checked to on this turn
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: $50NL FD OOP, This didn\'t feel right

consider a turn bet of 3-4 dollars to price yourself in(if you also make this play with huge hands occasionally your opponent will be unlikely to raise you here without a set) if he calls this bet you make +EV with a value bet or large bet on the river when you hit your flush
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: $50NL FD OOP, This didn\'t feel right

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consider a turn bet of 3-4 dollars to price yourself in(if you also make this play with huge hands occasionally your opponent will be unlikely to raise you here without a set) if he calls this bet you make +EV with a value bet or large bet on the river when you hit your flush

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So if my $3-4 turn bet gets raised AI I'm calling right?
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: $50NL FD OOP, This didn\'t feel right

no. youre making that bet to try to set a price to draw. if he raises you fold. its just a draw. but were trying to take advatage of him sitting there with his set going ooooooo im gonna trap him so hard
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:35 AM
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Default Re: $50NL FD OOP, This didn\'t feel right

this line is fine, IMO
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:41 AM
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Default Re: $50NL FD OOP, This didn\'t feel right

dont. bet. 3. dollars.
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:43 AM
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dont. bet. 3. dollars.

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yes if u bet its 7$
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:45 AM
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Default Re: $50NL FD OOP, This didn\'t feel right

Dont. Bet. Here. Ever.

CO is a shortie, and he is going nowhere. then you have BB to act behind you, though it is very, very likely he folds to a 2nd barrel given how he has played his hand. Chances that CO do after calling the flop bet and having ~14 left or something are very slim. check, hope it gets checked around, and only call if you are givin 3:1 or better.
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: $50NL FD OOP, This didn\'t feel right

like the machine said, you definitely fold to a raise other than a minimum....again you cant make the play unless you occasionally run bluffs with this line or monsters with this line also ( monsters so he only raises the very best hands, and sometimes then he even checks those because he thinks you could be bluffing so he wants you to fire again on the river)....also im not saying his line is terrible, it's a semibluff and it should be run pretty infrequently for that size of a bet after the flop call of a close to pot sized bet by a preflop raiser
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