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Old 11-02-2007, 07:14 PM
dlpnyc21 dlpnyc21 is offline
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live 25/50 game in NYC...this hand is playing as 25-50-100-200...villian in this hand is Nick Schulman...i generally think Nick is the best player in the game...he's been playing solid in a crazy game...i have 42k and villain covers...

after the two straddles i am UTG with KcJc and limp for 200...couple of callers behind me, small blind calls, and Nick calls from one of the straddles...5 to the flop

(~1100) flop Kd Qc 4c...

checked to me and i bet 1k...1 caller behind me...and then Nick check raises to 4k...who calls here and who reraises here? i choose to call and the other caller folds...

(~10,100) turn is As...Nick checks and i decide to check (people bet here?)

river Kh...nick leads for 9k...whats the play here?

is the hand different if Nick leads the turn, and then bets river from our perspective?

all comments welcome...obviously a lot has to do with my read on Nick but still would like to see how people would play the hand.

I didnt raise preflop because it owuld not have thinned the field any the way the game was playing...

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weird, nick made such a small cr on flop (that's the only part of the hand I really don't like). i prolly cawl b/c he cold have missed clubs a large % of the time and views the A as a bad card for you. furthermore, he thinks that you probably would have bet a hand >2p differently, meaning you would have either a) reraised his flop cr, b) bet the turn.

Thus, your hand looks pretty weak, making it a MT "i cawl."
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:26 PM
LAgambol LAgambol is offline
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Default Re: Hand 1: 100/200 live vs TheTakeover

i would call, i dont think he check raises with JTo on the flop. i think he has AcXc here over 50% of the time.
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:31 PM
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i would call, i dont think he check raises with JTo on the flop. i think he has AcXc here over 50% of the time.

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what hands is he expecting to get value from on the river with his bet then?
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:35 PM
LAgambol LAgambol is offline
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Default Re: Hand 1: 100/200 live vs TheTakeover

he doesn't have to be betting for value, he knows its a tough board for OP to call, OP would need at minimum a K 10 to call
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:49 PM
EmpireMaker2 EmpireMaker2 is offline
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Default Re: Hand 1: 100/200 live vs TheTakeover

Is this like KQ 70% of the time?
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:14 PM
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Is this like KQ 70% of the time?

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first thing i thought of

fwiw i think he should check the river with KQ tho, buw what do i know
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: Hand 1: 100/200 live vs TheTakeover

I'd fold the river and I would have played the hand the same way you did. I also agree this is exactly KQ a lot.
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