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So I played poker with a bunch of friends on Sat night. We had two 2-table tourneys w/ 16-18 guys, then most people went home, but 6 of us would play a 3rd game, $60 buy-in, 1st = $240, 2nd = $120. I play with thses guys a lot and they know I am TAG.
First hand, UTG, blinds 25/50 (4000 chips to start with) dealt KK I make it t150, get a call from a weaker player, but a stronger player makes it t650. I immediately put him on QQ-AA b/c I doubt he would raise me with any other holding (possibly AK, JJ, but more likely to call with these hands IMO). So now what? If I call, I have 1/4 of my stack in, and any flop w/o an A I am likely all-in post flop, w/ an ace I could fold the better hand. I decide I won't be able to play post flop optimally. So I need to call, shove or fold preflop. If my range is correct shoving and getting called is break-even (win QQ, tie KK lose vs AA). So since there is no +EV here, and I only lost t150, maybe a fold is best? What should I do? |
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Blow it up! If he knows you're TAG he also thinks you can lay down a hand. If he's got AA TL.
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i guess I'd jam here because it is 6-handed. If it were 9-handed then I'd fold.....MAYBE.
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Blow it up! If he knows you're TAG he also [s]thinks[/s] knowsyou can lay down a hand. If he's got AA TL. [/ QUOTE ] Also if he's repopping with AK, AQ, QQ or JJ you're a huge favorite. The ONLY hand you're a dog to is AA - and the chance that he's holding that is <1% (at least, mathmatically). He knows, that you know, that he would only re-pop with the hands you're putting him on - i.e. he could be doing this with air or at least a hand you have beat, knowing that as soon as you re-raise, he folds or he calls and bets an A-high flop. Personally, I shove - if he calls with AA - you've got a great story. Incidentally - I bet he folds his bluff (unless, of course, he has AA) |
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I think your QQ+ range is too tight, but you know the guy I suppose. You've got a chance to make it 1500 and have about a pot-sized bet behind if called. I think jamming 4000 into a <1000 pot is excessive. He could fold QQ/JJ/AK to a push but he might 5-bet all-in with them if he thinks he might get a fold out of QQ/KK/AK. That being said, I never fold preflop.
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[ QUOTE ] Blow it up! If he knows you're TAG he also [s]thinks[/s] knowsyou can lay down a hand. If he's got AA TL. [/ QUOTE ] Also if he's repopping with AK, AQ, QQ or JJ you're a huge favorite. The ONLY hand you're a dog to is AA - and the chance that he's holding that is <1% (at least, mathmatically). He knows, that you know, that he would only re-pop with the hands you're putting him on - i.e. he could be doing this with air or at least a hand you have beat, knowing that as soon as you re-raise, he folds or he calls and bets an A-high flop. Personally, I shove - if he calls with AA - you've got a great story. Incidentally - I bet he folds his bluff (unless, of course, he has AA) [/ QUOTE ] The chance that he has AA is much much greater than 1% given his action. You must update your prior when he raises like this. OP only has 150 invested so its not CLEARLY a push when 9-handed. I think at 6-handed very few people can fold this. |
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i guess I'd jam here because it is 6-handed. If it were 9-handed then I'd fold.....MAYBE. [/ QUOTE ] Why would you play it differently 6-handed versus 9-handed if you're going to put him on the same re-raising range in both cases? |
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I'd call, and depending on the flop try to let him commit his chips. Don't give him the option to fold worse hands.
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I'd call, and depending on the flop try to let him commit his chips. Don't give him the option to fold worse hands. [/ QUOTE ] |
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[ QUOTE ] i guess I'd jam here because it is 6-handed. If it were 9-handed then I'd fold.....MAYBE. [/ QUOTE ] Why would you play it differently 6-handed versus 9-handed if you're going to put him on the same re-raising range in both cases? [/ QUOTE ] Because 6-handed its much less likely that you are up against AA. I would not put him on the same re-raising range in both cases. People raise much lighter short-handed, as I'm sure you know. |
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