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10-29-2007, 07:48 PM
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KQo, spiked K on turn vs preflop 3 bettor
Villain is 24/19/2.2 over a large sample.
PokerStars $5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 5 players Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#FF0000">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls. Flop: (7.00 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#FF0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (4.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#FF0000">SB bets</font>, Hero... What is the best line in this spot? 
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#6
10-29-2007, 08:31 PM
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Re: KQo, spiked K on turn vs preflop 3 bettor
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I wait and raise river. [/ QUOTE ] On the river Sb c/c, b/f or c/f with almost every hand we beat and a raise on the turn looks very suspicious for Sb.
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#7
10-29-2007, 08:37 PM
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Re: KQo, spiked K on turn vs preflop 3 bettor
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[ QUOTE ] I wait and raise river. [/ QUOTE ] On the river Sb c/c, b/f or c/f with almost every hand we beat and a raise on the turn looks very suspicious for Sb. [/ QUOTE ] I never take the raise/fold river line, but there are some advantages here. Villian is somewhat more likely to payoff a small pocket pair here that he might fold on the turn; he is also more likely to c/c the river when he could have gotten away from it on the turn. You can also fold to a 3bet a lot easier because there's no cards to come. It would suck to raise/fold the turn against Villian's AA, but that's not too bad on the river.
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#8
10-29-2007, 08:49 PM
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Re: KQo, spiked K on turn vs preflop 3 bettor
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I wait and raise river. [/ QUOTE ] On the river Sb c/c, b/f or c/f with almost every hand we beat and a raise on the turn looks very suspicious for Sb. [/ QUOTE ] I never take the raise/fold river line, but there are some advantages here. Villian is somewhat more likely to payoff a small pocket pair here that he might fold on the turn; he is also more likely to c/c the river when he could have gotten away from it on the turn. You can also fold to a 3bet a lot easier because there's no cards to come. It would suck to raise/fold the turn against Villian's AA, but that's not too bad on the river. [/ QUOTE ] I like this a lot. Like you said, if I get 3balled on the turn I still have outs and the pot is getting big. AA (6 combos) : 5 outs against AK (8 combos) : 3 outs against KK (1 combo) : 0 outs against Assuming these are the only hands he 3-bets with, on average I would have about 3.6 outs, with the pot laying 9.5:1. Eh... not that great I guess... Do TAGS ever bet / 3-bet this turn with KQ?
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#10
10-29-2007, 09:20 PM
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Re: KQo, spiked K on turn vs preflop 3 bettor
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AA (6 combos) : 5 outs against AK (8 combos) : 3 outs against KK (1 combo) : 0 outs against Assuming these are the only hands he 3-bets with, on average I would have about 3.6 outs, with the pot laying 9.5:1. Eh... not that great I guess... Do TAGS ever bet / 3-bet this turn with KQ? [/ QUOTE ] With an AF of 2.2 it's quite likely. I don't understand from which hand beside KJ we can win 3 bet if we call the turn. AA, KK and AK is around 10% of his range, getting the most value from the hands which are beat is the high priority imo.
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