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#1
08-08-2007, 12:35 PM
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3/6 LO8 nut low + nut draw on turn
BB is TAG. UTG is mega-fish. No read on MP3.
look ok? Full Tilt Poker Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring game Limit: $3/$6 9 players Converter Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, BB checks. Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.5SB, 6 players) Button checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, Button folds, BB calls, UTG calls. Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.75BB, 5 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, BB calls, UTG calls. River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (12.75BB, 5 players) BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP3 folds, BB calls. 
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#2
08-08-2007, 12:48 PM
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Re: 3/6 LO8 nut low + nut draw on turn
raise pf? situational i suppose if they'll all come along
rest is fine yes
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#3
08-08-2007, 02:03 PM
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Re: 3/6 LO8 nut low + nut draw on turn
Isn't AA2x *more* profitable against a smaller number of opponents? I believe that the preflop raise is mandatory even if you think fewer players will call as a result.
Other than that it's fine.
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#4
08-08-2007, 03:33 PM
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Re: 3/6 LO8 nut low + nut draw on turn
well aaxx like aa89 you want few opponents, but aa2x or aa3x are so strong that multiway is ok imo, but yea it always depends on tbl conditions
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#5
08-08-2007, 06:58 PM
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Re: 3/6 LO8 nut low + nut draw on turn
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raise pf? situational i suppose if they'll all come along rest is fine yes [/ QUOTE ] Just to clarify... so I should tend to raise here if I think they'll still call anyways, but just call if I think a raise will drive too many people out?
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#6
08-08-2007, 07:14 PM
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Re: 3/6 LO8 nut low + nut draw on turn
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[ QUOTE ] raise pf? situational i suppose if they'll all come along rest is fine yes [/ QUOTE ] Just to clarify... so I should tend to raise here if I think they'll still call anyways, but just call if I think a raise will drive too many people out? [/ QUOTE ] Not to be a smartass, but it doesn't really matter. You should raise here if you think they'll still call and you should raise here if you think it will drive people out. The former will more likely get you half of a bigger pot. The latter will more likely get you a scoop of a smaller pot. As for calling in this specific situation, it is perfectly acceptable as well.
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#7
08-08-2007, 07:17 PM
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Re: 3/6 LO8 nut low + nut draw on turn
well i'm drawing a distinction between hands like aa2 and aa3 which are very strong and don't mind multiway action, and hands like aa89 or aaj7 which aren't all that great.
the former, raise if everyone will call anyway, for value. if not, limp is okay, or if you have a laggy image raise since you're raising lots worse hands anyway. the latter, raise to drive out other players since your hand doesn't fare well multiway. unless everyone will call your raise anyway, in which case limp or fold pf.
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#9
08-08-2007, 10:08 PM
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Re: 3/6 LO8 nut low + nut draw on turn
k, enough trolling pls
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#10
08-08-2007, 10:31 PM
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Re: 3/6 LO8 nut low + nut draw on turn
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well i'm drawing a distinction between hands like aa2 and aa3 which are very strong and don't mind multiway action, and hands like aa89 or aaj7 which aren't all that great. the former, raise if everyone will call anyway, for value. if not, limp is okay, or if you have a laggy image raise since you're raising lots worse hands anyway. the latter, raise to drive out other players since your hand doesn't fare well multiway. unless everyone will call your raise anyway, in which case limp or fold pf. [/ QUOTE ] Thats all true but on the river your hand will be just one pair 90% of the time (you will improve to str-8 or flush less then 1 in 10 times). Sometimes it will be aces up if the board pairs. The point is that the showdownvalue of one pair decreases exponentially with every next player in the pot. So the next guy that you let in can easily shift your winning from 3/4 of the pot to 1/4 pot. The extra money doesnt outweight the lost equity. It too me a long time to understand this concept but you just have to re-raise or cap with AA2x whenever you have it. Someone already suggested this, I just give the logic/math behind this.
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