94o: A Harrah's hand

[Nick C]

I'm at a mostly loose-passive B&M table and get a free play with 94o in the BB. (And the players involved in the hand basically fit the loose-passive description, although there had been some recent turnover at the table and my reads were sketchy.) I believe it was three limpers to me. (This is 3/6, by the way -- that's all my local B&M was offering in limit hold'em today. For those who don't know, the closest thing online to B&M 3/6 in terms of how the game plays, at my casino anyway, is 0.5/1.)

The flop comes Q94 with two clubs. I have none of those.

I bet and get two callers.

The turn brings an offsuit ace. The action goes bet, call, raise.

Now what?

[Buckmulligan]

I'm either three betting this turn or donking the river. I'm not giving this a chance of moving to sd without another bet going in.

Edit:
Really a nagging spot. I'm three betting. He's not folding any ace; his flop action makes me discount his hand range that beats us.

[MrWookie]

I think you may not realize how passive live play is. I'm cold calling and hoping I make it to showdown for one more bet.

Edit: Err, wait. You're the bettor, there's one caller, and a raiser. OK, that changes things. Is the guy in the middle LP enough to cold call our raise? I really want to keep him around, because I think we're good often enough to get more money in with the overlay, but I'd rather not be HU w/ the raiser. I wouldn't mind calling, and calling a river bet (hopefully getting the overcall).

[Buckmulligan]

maybe... I've never played in a live game.

[tyler_cracker]

I have played a lot of live 3/6. I am definitely not 3betting this turn if the read is somewhere between unknown and LP.

Donking the river is appealing depending on the card that comes.

[Fantam]

I think that I prefer calling the late position turn raise to 3-betting.

I think that theres a fair chance that the late position raiser may have just made a better 2 pair than yours, such as A9 or A4.

I think thats more likely than a passive player raising with say AJ,AT,A8 or another weaker Ace.

I also like the idea of keeping the middle position caller in for an overlay.

[Faze]

Our lowest B&M limit is 4/8, and I would actually say it plays looser than .25/.50. I'd only compare it to a happy hour .50/1. Wookie's right about the passiveness, a turn raise from most players is set+, a preflop 3bet is over 90% AA, and (to throw in my stereotype of the day) a lot of older people don't like to PFR AK/AQ. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

I call and c/c the river unless I boat.

[Bonesy]

I also call down from here. The 3/6 games at the casino I play at are also loose passive. The turn raise here looks pretty strong.

[Buzz-cp]

I don't even think I'd 3-bet the turn playing online. I take it to showdown at this point.

[btspider]

need more information.. i've played 5/10 live in AC where I've been the only one to 3-bet the turn over the course of six hours. i 3-bet top set and *the nuts* declined to cap b/c he thought he was being freerolled.