KingTenSooooooted

[matrix]

yes standard raise size is $2.5

I am trying out a few different sized raises here and there.

I want to build a family pot for when I hit my flush or when I hit the straight to make sure I can scoop the maximum when I get a big hand.

KTs from the CO is well within my opening range over the top of 1 limper.

folding pre is weaksauce I think.

[Check_The_Nuts]

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yes standard raise size is $2.5

I am trying out a few different sized raises here and there.

I want to build a family pot for when I hit my flush or when I hit the straight to make sure I can scoop the maximum when I get a big hand.

KTs from the CO is well within the top of my opening range over the top of 1 limper.

folding pre is weaksauce retarded and I hope I never accidently light 3bet someone who doesn't raise this here.

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so basically your preflop raise size put you in this super-marginal spot with a super-marginal hand? I think you need to think about the relative strength of your hand, I mean everyone has been saying that villian can't have JJ-AA here only a set/two pair/flush draw/big draw. So really KT=AA but sometimes you'll kill his outs if he has like KQ/JQ (I think AK/AQs is a longshot guys, he would definitely repop with those preflop?).

So close your eyes and call turn and river barring no spade hits? Do stuff if one of the two non-spade aces hit? Is that the answer ur looking for?

[Antinome]

I'm calling flop. On the turn when the equity of his whole range drops and mine goes up (esp if I improve) I'll decide how far I want to take this.

[Tien]

You gotta ask yourself the question before you do anything.

If you raise, are you prepared to go broke with Top pair, mediocre kicker against that kind of player? Cuz essentially that is whats going to happen.

Is someone that tight betting into 3 players with trash? Never.

You call turn, now what do you do? You commit yourself every single street and will end up losing more defending top pair. Now the better knows exactly what kind of a hand you have. If I have a set and I bet into you pot like this and you call flop, I know 100% your range of hands. Most likely a JJ, QQ or top pair. Now he knows your range of hands.

This is a fold.

Raise is the worse play you can do.

[Tien]

Plus, you don't even know what the last player behind you will do.

This is such an obvious fold its not even funny.

Calling gives the other guy behind you odds to call for whatever draw.

[Tien]

This forum needs another article to clean up the mess I am seeing here.

[shyturtle27]

pleeeeeeeeeeeease!!!!!!!!!

[Jer672]

I think i call the majority of the time and reevaluate on the turn. if im feeling frisky ill raise it up to like 21ish.

[Tien]

Just gimme the results before I go to bed damnit.

[brian8065]

I'd fold to this size bet. I just don't think KT is good enough. Probably not even AT.