how to play against 84%pfr maniac?

[rh2020]

Have been lurking for a while now, soaking up some of the great discussion and decided it was time to stop being a forum virgin and get posting. Hope you can help a newbie out.

I was having a good session then struggled after moving onto a table with what seemed like a couple of maniacs. One in particular was firing raises all over the place and going AI often then he slowplayed higher trips in the hand below.

I think I should have raised preflop in late position but I had become more passive after seeing madness at the table. If villain had then re-raised I may have been inclined to fold and saved some $$. I also had been sucked out earlier by a calling station with 53s who caught flush on the river so I was being over-cautious.

What's the consensus on strategy against such players, leave the table; or wait for a premium hand to bust him?

Villain mentioned above is 84/23/1.4 over around 65 hands. I had seen him show down with nothing prior to this.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $14.98
Hero: $10
Button: $4.37
SB: $19.17
BB: $9.15

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Hero calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $0.55</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1.75, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.4</font>, SB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4.55, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $17.27</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $8.1</font>.
Uncalled bets: $9.17 returned to SB.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($20.75, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $20.75)


Results:
Final pot: $20.75

[cgm93]

wait for a premium hand to bust him

You had your answer right there.

As played, I think you should have raised pre-flop.

But with his numbers, and the action to that point, I go bust when that 9 hits the turn as well.

Re-load, and stack him to get your money back.

[Archon_Wing]

Against a player that raises so much pf, 3-bet much more liberally in position. As long as you play fairly decent hands, you will get it in with the best of it more often. I would reraise with AJ, TT+

However the villian you described here raises 23% of his hands (plays 84%) That means that his raising range is a lot tighter than what he calls with. It's still fairly loose though, so you can look him up in good spots. Raise him with a bit looser range when he limps. What you shouldn't do is make thin calls if he makes overbet pushes all of a sudden postflop.

The hand itself is pretty standard, no way you're folding a set here.

[keikiwai]

i don't think i like your flop bet at all

turn is obv. and ez call

top pair or better is often good vs. maniacs

[bmk67]

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What's the consensus on strategy against such players, leave the table; or wait for a premium hand to bust him?


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3B your premium hands preflop.

I go broke on this hand against this sort of villain as well.

[rh2020]

keikiwai: So instead of c-bet would you check-raise? Can you expand on why you don't like it (I'm guessing flush draw), and what you would do different on the flop?

thanks for the tips all, spot on.

[KurtSF]

Raise pre-flop.

Postflop play was perfect, IMHO. Only TT and J8 are beating you, and you've got 10 outs against the straight. EZ call.

[KurtSF]

Oh, and in general, tighten up and whoop their azz with premiums.

[Pocket Trips]

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don't think i like your flop bet at all

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Why? very few hands beat us here and even though it is mipossible to read someone who plays %84 of the hands I have to think 9's are better a good majoriy of the time here so why not get $$$ in the pot while you are pretty sure you are ahead. The turn card scares me more than this flop does. In addition to making us a set it also makes a str8 for many crappy hands a donkey like this is likely to play

[RollTide77]

I'm probably not going all in on this guy with only trips and a J8 straight and a FD on the board. I might though and definitely have in the past LOL. But like everyone else, no one can fault you. Just reload to the max and tighten up.