Straight Draw OOP, coordinated board

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t3800)
UTG+1 (t7555)
MP1 (t13490)
MP2 (t18550)
CO (t9265)
Button (t6520)
Hero (t6715)
BB (t5775)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls t225, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t750) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

Turn: (t750) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t600</font>, UTG+1 calls t600.

River: (t1950) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t3600</font>, Hero calls t2400.

Final Pot: t9150

didnt have pahud up, but villain (portuguese83) seemed like a standard tagish player up until now, is river a fold?

[cha59]

Is this a standard preflop call for you? Keep in mind I mostly know SNGs, but I dont see the point of playing this hand OOP in this situation.

When you get to the river, he could have a lot of stuff. Slowplayed (misplayed) trips or an overpair wouldnt surprise me. I think your pot odds plus the chance of being ahead make it a thin call.

[Exitonly]

nah i think i usually fold if it was just heads up, but decided to call this time cause.. well i guess i just felt like it, and we were deep enough that it wasn't clearly bad (could be wrong though)

[Foucault]

40BB's is nowhere near deep enough to make this call preflop. And definitely call river.

[Exitonly]

nowhere near? dont want to nitpick because i concede that it's probably -ev, but you saw it was a minraise, not 3x? BB comes along a high % of the time.

edit: and if theres another caller, i think i'd be in there every time, yes/no?

[TakenItEasy]

I don't think a TAGish player has trips here. The turn is also dangerous enough that I don't see too many reasonable players only calling with trips. It looks like the nut flush or even 44.

I think it's an easy fold but I admit that I have made this call more than once, usually when I don't have a good enough read on the player.

What's the buy-in?

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oops, 100r

[TakenItEasy]

Yeah, I think this is an easy fold.

I forgot to include 33 or quads in villains range and I couldn't imagine trips raising that river with your actions representing hitting your draw on the river and the 4h hitting both draws. I also can't imagine a bluff on the river with that board and you showing so much strength.

[KingDan]

I think pf kinda sucks

IMO you're almost never good on river

[Ansky]

meh to a min raise whatever.


its all good tho, U CANNOT FOLD RIVER

way too good a price with a good hand here.

meh

im drunk so w//e take this w/ a grain of salt.