HU river

[gehrig]

15/30 sb=button

dont know anything about opponent

he opens i call 82cc

flop 23c6c check check
turn 5x i bet he calls
river tx. can i value bet?? its either that or c/f i guess

[danzasmack]

I would bet. Most unknowns are gonna bet a hand like A4 on that flop, or J5 for that matter. When he just calls the turn hands like K7 make sense. Basically i put him on a hand that doesn't want to call your flop c/r but will.

If he hit the ten he can't raise you really so i usually bet this spot. I would pretty much never c/f as I don't give an unknow credit for value betting 1 pair here.

[bbbushu]

is it also an easy fold to a raise?

[danzasmack]

I think so, even more so as it's almost an impossible spot for him to be raising on a bluff. That type of bluff is irrational IMO and without knowing anything about this guy I wouldn't assume he made them.

[Guy McSucker]

Is there really any need to call preflop with 82s out of position when you don't know the enemy?

Guy.

[gehrig]

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Is there really any need to call preflop with 82s out of position when you don't know the enemy?

Guy.

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filtering my db for hands where i called a raise in this spot
32s +.25bb
42s -.33bb
43s +.36bb
52s +.24bb
62s +.41bb
63s -.02bb
72s -.40bb
73s -.019bb
82s -.16bb
83s +.07bb
92s breakeven
93s -.19bb

thats over 630 total instances. folding is an automatic -.5bb loss.

[gehrig]

oops that was for when im sb

filtering for bb gets the same results but less dramatic

[Scary_Tiger]

I think you can value bet here. Some opponents don't call worse hands here, but plenty do.

[duckman]

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I think you can value bet here. Some opponents don't call worse hands here, but plenty do.

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[Victor]

i value bet unless opponent is both a good player and playing well.